-----Original Message-----
From: Amos Jeffries [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [squid-users] Squid/NTLM and site timeouts

On 12/02/2012 2:30 a.m., Jason Gauthier wrote:
> All,
>
>     I have a Squid and NTLM implementation.  I've had one for years, and 
> always have been pretty pleased with it.  There has always been one quirk, 
> and I've decided to ask about it in case there is a known solution.
>
> Typically, NTLM requires a back and forth of authentication.  Whenever a site 
> is very slow to respond, or down and times out, my browsers display an 
> authentication prompt to the end user.   I noticed this happens sometimes, 
> even,  after the full page is loaded, and an advertisement or some other 
> element takes a long time to load.

>This behaviour sounds more like the slowness is being caused by NTLM itself 
>being slow or failing. The domain lookups and connections do not even start to 
>happen until NTLM >login to the proxy is already successfully completed.

>The prompt is a browser feature. Squid has nothing to do with it besides the 
>coincidence that the browser may choose to do it whenever Squid asks for 
>credentials. The modern >ones usually only try it after automatic logins like 
>NTLM have been tried and failed.


You would think that is the case, but it's not.  I can demonstrate this.  I've 
created a PHP page that just loads text.
http://www.pendulus.org/loaddirect.php

Squid logs:
1329009688.461      0 192.168.71.117 TCP_DENIED/407 4051 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loaddirect.php - NONE/- text/html
1329009688.552      1 192.168.71.117 TCP_DENIED/407 4308 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loaddirect.php - NONE/- text/html
1329009688.822    187 192.168.71.117 TCP_MISS/200 330 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loaddirect.php jgauthier DIRECT/69.135.186.43 text/html

This worked exactly as expected.

I created one with a 30 second delay:
http://www.pendulus.org/loadshortpause.php

Squid logs:
1329010018.324      1 192.168.71.117 TCP_DENIED/407 4067 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loadshortpause.php - NONE/- text/html
1329010018.473      0 192.168.71.117 TCP_DENIED/407 4332 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loadshortpause.php - NONE/- text/html
1329010048.720  30194 192.168.71.117 TCP_MISS/200 330 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loadshortpause.php jgauthier DIRECT/69.135.186.43 
text/html

Notice my username does not appear until *after* the 30 second pause that's 
inside the web page.

Lastly, I created one with a 300 second delay in it.
http://www.pendulus.org/loadpause.php

Squid logs:
1329009789.283      0 192.168.71.117 TCP_DENIED/407 4047 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loadpause.php - NONE/- text/html
1329009789.372      0 192.168.71.117 TCP_DENIED/407 4312 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loadpause.php - NONE/- text/html
1329009909.439 120024 192.168.71.117 TCP_MISS/000 0 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loadpause.php jgauthier DIRECT/69.135.186.43 -
1329009909.534      0 192.168.71.117 TCP_DENIED/407 4331 GET 
http://www.pendulus.org/loadpause.php - NONE/- text/html

At the point the second two log entries are created, the browser also prompted 
me for credentials again.
The gap in time is two minutes.
After two minutes, I am re-prompted from the browser, this is what I am 
describing.  The situation I want to stop from occurring.

Thanks,

Jason

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