Hi Erick,

  thanks for your help.  After some checks. it appear that sort field (the 
alphaSortOnly field) aren't feed on 'some' servers.  On the leader, the sort 
order are good and terms sorted seems ok.  But, on the server with issue, 
/terms return empty nodes (No data stored I guess).  After a full indexation 
(with same way then first time), all servers works as expected now.  It's like 
if the copyfield don't work on every servers ... it's really worrying.

Is there known issues with copyfield with SolrCloud/replicats?

Regards.
________________________________________
De : Erick Erickson [erickerick...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : 2 mai 2014 12:07
À : solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Objet : Re: RE : Shards don't return documents in same order

Francois:

Yes, there are several means to examine the raw terms in the index.
> The admin/schema-browser page
> TermsComponent: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/The+Terms+Component
> Luke

the  schema-browser is all set up for you, it's easiest. The
TermsComponent should be directly usable too, I believe it's
configured by default in solrconfig.xml Luke takes a bit of setup but
is a great tool.

Did you re-index from scratch on all shards? I presume your ordering
is still not the same on all shards... the order I'd expect would be:
mb20140410a
mb20140410anew
mb20140411a

Best,
Erick


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Francois Perron
<francois.per...@ticketmaster.com> wrote:
> Hi Erick,
>
>   thank you for your response.  You are right, I changed alphaOnlySort to 
> keep lettres and numbers and to remove some acticles (a, an, the).
>
> This is the filetype definition :
>
>     <fieldType name="alphaOnlySort" class="solr.TextField" 
> sortMissingLast="true" omitNorms="true">
>       <analyzer>
>         <tokenizer class="solr.KeywordTokenizerFactory"/>
>         <filter class="solr.LowerCaseFilterFactory"/>
>         <filter class="solr.TrimFilterFactory"/>
>         <filter class="solr.PatternReplaceFilterFactory" replace="all" 
> replacement="" pattern="(\b(a|an|the)\b|[^a-z,0-9])"/>
>       </analyzer>
>     </fieldType>
>
>
> Then, I tested each name with admin ui on each server and this is the results 
> :
>
> server1
>
> MB20140410A = mb20140410a
> MB20140411A = mb20140411a
> MB20140410A-New = mb20140410anew
>
> server2
>
> MB20140410A = mb20140410a
> MB20140411A = mb20140411a
> MB20140410A-New = mb20140410anew
>
> server3
>
> MB20140410A = mb20140410a
> MB20140411A = mb20140411a
> MB20140410A-New = mb20140410anew
>
> "Unfortunately", all results are identical so is there a mean to view data 
> real indexed in these documents ?  Can be a problem with a particular server 
> ?  All configs are in zookeeper so all cores shouldhave the same config, 
> right ?  Is there any way to force a replicat to resynchronize ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Francois.
>
> ________________________________________
> De : Erick Erickson [erickerick...@gmail.com]
> Envoyé : 30 avril 2014 16:36
> À : solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Objet : Re: Shards don't return documents in same order
>
> Hmmm, take a look at the admin/analysis page for these inputs for
> alphaOnlySort. If you're using the stock Solr distro, you're probably
> not considering the effects patternReplaceFilterFactory which is
> removing all non-letters. So these three terms reduce to
>
> mba
> mba
> mbanew
>
> You can look at the actual indexed terms by the admin/schema-browser as well.
>
> That said, unless you transposed the order because you were
> concentrating on the numeric part, the doc with MB20140410A-New should
> always be sorting last.
>
> All of which is irrelevant if you're doing something else with
> "alphaOnlySort", so please paste in the fieldType definition if you've
> changed it.
>
> What gets returned in the doc for _stored_ data is a verbatim copy,
> NOT the output of the analysis chain, which can be confusing.
>
> Oh, and Solr uses the internal lucene doc ID to break ties, and docs
> on different replicas can have different internal Lucene doc IDs
> relative to each other as a result of merging so that's something else
> to watch out for.
>
> Best,
> Erick
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Francois Perron
> <francois.per...@ticketmaster.com> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>>   I have a small SolrCloud setup (3 servers, 1 collection with 1 shard and 3 
>> replicat).  In my schema, I have a alphaOnlySort field with a copyfield.
>>
>> This is a part of my managed-schema :
>>
>>     <field name="_root_" type="string" indexed="true" stored="false"/>
>>     <field name="_uid" type="string" multiValued="false" indexed="true" 
>> required="true" stored="true"/>
>>     <field name="_version_" type="long" indexed="true" stored="true"/>
>>     <field name="event_id" type="string" indexed="true" stored="true"/>
>>     <field name="event_name" type="text_general" indexed="true" 
>> stored="true"/>
>>     <field name="event_name_sort" type="alphaOnlySort"/>
>>
>> with the copyfield
>>
>>   <copyField source="event_name" dest="event_name_sort"/>
>>
>>
>> The problem is : I query my collection with a sort on my alphasort field but 
>> on one of my servers, the sort order is not the same.
>>
>> On server 1 and 2, I have this result :
>>
>> <doc>
>> <str name="event_name">MB20140410A</str>
>> </doc>
>> <doc>
>> <str name="event_name">MB20140410A-New</str>
>> </doc>
>> <doc>
>> <str name="event_name">MB20140411A</str>
>> </doc>
>>
>>
>>
>> and on the third one, this :
>>
>> <str name="event_name">MB20140410A</str>
>> </doc>
>> <doc>
>> <str name="event_name">MB20140411A</str>
>> </doc>
>> <doc>
>> <str name="event_name">MB20140410A-New</str>
>> </doc>
>>
>>
>> The doc named "MB20140411A" should be at the end ...
>>
>> Any idea ?
>>
>> Regards

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