You can specify maxSegments parameter e.g. maxSegments=5 while optimizing.

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Vinay Pothnis <poth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Couple of follow up questions:
>
> * When the optimize command is run, looks like it creates one big segment
> (forceMerge = 1). Will it get split at any point later? Or will that big
> segment remain?
>
> * Is there anyway to maintain the number of segments - but still merge to
> reclaim the deleted documents space? In other words, can I issue
> "forceMerge=20"? If so, how would the command look like? Any examples for
> this?
>
> Thanks
> Vinay
>
>
>
> On 16 April 2014 07:59, Vinay Pothnis <poth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Erick!
> > Yes - I am using the expunge deletes option.
> >
> > Thanks for the note on disk space for the optimize command. I should have
> > enough space for that. What about the heap space requirement? I hope it
> can
> > do the optimize with the memory that is allocated to it.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Vinay
> >
> >
> > On 16 April 2014 04:52, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The optimize should, indeed, reduce the index size. Be aware that it
> >> may consume 2x the disk space. You may also try expungedeletes, see
> >> here: https://wiki.apache.org/solr/UpdateXmlMessages
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Erick
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Vinay Pothnis <poth...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Another update:
> >> >
> >> > I removed the replicas - to avoid the replication doing a full copy. I
> >> am
> >> > able delete sizeable chunks of data.
> >> > But the overall index size remains the same even after the deletes. It
> >> does
> >> > not seem to go down.
> >> >
> >> > I understand that Solr would do this in background - but I don't seem
> to
> >> > see the decrease in overall index size even after 1-2 hours.
> >> > I can see a bunch of ".del" files in the index directory, but the it
> >> does
> >> > not seem to get cleaned up. Is there anyway to monitor/follow the
> >> progress
> >> > of index compaction?
> >> >
> >> > Also, does triggering "optimize" from the admin UI help to compact the
> >> > index size on disk?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Vinay
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 14 April 2014 12:19, Vinay Pothnis <poth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Some update:
> >> >>
> >> >> I removed the auto warm configurations for the various caches and
> >> reduced
> >> >> the cache sizes. I then issued a call to delete a day's worth of data
> >> (800K
> >> >> documents).
> >> >>
> >> >> There was no out of memory this time - but some of the nodes went
> into
> >> >> recovery mode. Was able to catch some logs this time around and this
> is
> >> >> what i see:
> >> >>
> >> >> ****************
> >> >> *WARN  [2014-04-14 18:11:00.381] [org.apache.solr.update.PeerSync]
> >> >> PeerSync: core=core1_shard1_replica2 url=http://host1:8983/solr
> >> >> <http://host1:8983/solr> too many updates received since start -
> >> >> startingUpdates no longer overlaps with our currentUpdates*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:00.476]
> >> [org.apache.solr.cloud.RecoveryStrategy]
> >> >> PeerSync Recovery was not successful - trying replication.
> >> >> core=core1_shard1_replica2*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:00.476]
> >> [org.apache.solr.cloud.RecoveryStrategy]
> >> >> Starting Replication Recovery. core=core1_shard1_replica2*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:00.535]
> >> [org.apache.solr.cloud.RecoveryStrategy]
> >> >> Begin buffering updates. core=core1_shard1_replica2*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:00.536]
> >> [org.apache.solr.cloud.RecoveryStrategy]
> >> >> Attempting to replicate from
> >> http://host2:8983/solr/core1_shard1_replica1/
> >> >> <http://host2:8983/solr/core1_shard1_replica1/>.
> >> core=core1_shard1_replica2*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:00.536]
> >> >> [org.apache.solr.client.solrj.impl.HttpClientUtil] Creating new http
> >> >> client,
> >> >>
> >>
> config:maxConnections=128&maxConnectionsPerHost=32&followRedirects=false*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:01.964]
> >> >> [org.apache.solr.client.solrj.impl.HttpClientUtil] Creating new http
> >> >> client,
> >> >>
> >>
> config:connTimeout=5000&socketTimeout=20000&allowCompression=false&maxConnections=10000&maxConnectionsPerHost=10000*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:01.969] [org.apache.solr.handler.SnapPuller]
> >>  No
> >> >> value set for 'pollInterval'. Timer Task not started.*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:01.973] [org.apache.solr.handler.SnapPuller]
> >> >> Master's generation: 1108645*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:01.973] [org.apache.solr.handler.SnapPuller]
> >> >> Slave's generation: 1108627*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:01.973] [org.apache.solr.handler.SnapPuller]
> >> >> Starting replication process*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:02.007] [org.apache.solr.handler.SnapPuller]
> >> >> Number of files in latest index in master: 814*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:02.007]
> >> >> [org.apache.solr.core.CachingDirectoryFactory] return new directory
> for
> >> >> /opt/data/solr/core1_shard1_replica2/data/index.20140414181102007*
> >> >> *INFO  [2014-04-14 18:11:02.008] [org.apache.solr.handler.SnapPuller]
> >> >> Starting download to
> >> >> NRTCachingDirectory(org.apache.lucene.store.MMapDirectory@
> >> /opt/data/solr/core1_shard1_replica2/data/index.20140414181102007
> >> >> lockFactory=org.apache.lucene.store.NativeFSLockFactory@5f6570fe;
> >> >> maxCacheMB=48.0 maxMergeSizeMB=4.0) fullCopy=true*
> >> >>
> >> >> ****************
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> So, it looks like the number of updates is too huge for the regular
> >> >> replication and then it goes into full copy of index. And since our
> >> index
> >> >> size is very huge (350G), this is causing the cluster to go into
> >> recovery
> >> >> mode forever - trying to copy that huge index.
> >> >>
> >> >> I also read in some thread
> >> >>
> >>
> http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Recovery-too-many-updates-received-since-start-td3935281.htmlthatthereis
>  a limit of 100 documents.
> >> >>
> >> >> I wonder if this has been updated to make that configurable since
> that
> >> >> thread. If not, the only option I see is to do a "trickle" delete of
> >> 100
> >> >> documents per second or something.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also - the other suggestion of using "distributed=false" might not
> help
> >> >> because the issue currently is that the replication is going to "full
> >> copy".
> >> >>
> >> >> Any thoughts?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> Vinay
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 14 April 2014 07:54, Vinay Pothnis <poth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Yes, that is our approach. We did try deleting a day's worth of data
> >> at a
> >> >>> time, and that resulted in OOM as well.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>> Vinay
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 14 April 2014 00:27, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hi;
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I mean you can divide the range (i.e. one week at each delete
> >> instead of
> >> >>>> one month) and try to check whether you still get an OOM or not.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks;
> >> >>>> Furkan KAMACI
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2014-04-14 7:09 GMT+03:00 Vinay Pothnis <poth...@gmail.com>:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > Aman,
> >> >>>> > Yes - Will do!
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Furkan,
> >> >>>> > How do you mean by 'bulk delete'?
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > -Thanks
> >> >>>> > Vinay
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > On 12 April 2014 14:49, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > > Hi;
> >> >>>> > >
> >> >>>> > > Do you get any problems when you index your data? On the other
> >> hand
> >> >>>> > > deleting as bulks and reducing the size of documents may help
> you
> >> >>>> not to
> >> >>>> > > hit OOM.
> >> >>>> > >
> >> >>>> > > Thanks;
> >> >>>> > > Furkan KAMACI
> >> >>>> > >
> >> >>>> > >
> >> >>>> > > 2014-04-12 8:22 GMT+03:00 Aman Tandon <amantandon...@gmail.com
> >:
> >> >>>> > >
> >> >>>> > > > Vinay please share your experience after trying this
> solution.
> >> >>>> > > >
> >> >>>> > > >
> >> >>>> > > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Vinay Pothnis <
> >> poth...@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> > > wrote:
> >> >>>> > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > The query is something like this:
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > *curl -H 'Content-Type: text/xml' --data
> >> >>>> '<delete><query>param1:(val1
> >> >>>> > > OR
> >> >>>> > > > > val2) AND -param2:(val3 OR val4) AND
> >> date_param:[1383955200000 TO
> >> >>>> > > > > 1385164800000]</query></delete>'
> >> >>>> > > > > 'http://host:port/solr/coll-name1/update?commit=true'*
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > Trying to restrict the number of documents deleted via the
> >> date
> >> >>>> > > > parameter.
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > Had not tried the "distrib=false" option. I could give
> that a
> >> >>>> try.
> >> >>>> > > Thanks
> >> >>>> > > > > for the link! I will check on the cache sizes and autowarm
> >> >>>> values.
> >> >>>> > Will
> >> >>>> > > > try
> >> >>>> > > > > and disable the caches when I am deleting and give that a
> >> try.
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > Thanks Erick and Shawn for your inputs!
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > -Vinay
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > On 11 April 2014 15:28, Shawn Heisey <s...@elyograg.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > > On 4/10/2014 7:25 PM, Vinay Pothnis wrote:
> >> >>>> > > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > >> When we tried to delete the data through a query - say 1
> >> >>>> > day/month's
> >> >>>> > > > > worth
> >> >>>> > > > > >> of data. But after deleting just 1 month's worth of
> data,
> >> the
> >> >>>> > master
> >> >>>> > > > > node
> >> >>>> > > > > >> is going out of memory - heap space.
> >> >>>> > > > > >>
> >> >>>> > > > > >> Wondering is there any way to incrementally delete the
> >> data
> >> >>>> > without
> >> >>>> > > > > >> affecting the cluster adversely.
> >> >>>> > > > > >>
> >> >>>> > > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > > I'm curious about the actual query being used here.  Can
> >> you
> >> >>>> share
> >> >>>> > > it,
> >> >>>> > > > or
> >> >>>> > > > > > a redacted version of it?  Perhaps there might be a clue
> >> there?
> >> >>>> > > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > > Is this a fully distributed delete request?  One thing
> you
> >> >>>> might
> >> >>>> > try,
> >> >>>> > > > > > assuming Solr even supports it, is sending the same
> delete
> >> >>>> request
> >> >>>> > > > > directly
> >> >>>> > > > > > to each shard core with distrib=false.
> >> >>>> > > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > > Here's a very incomplete list about how you can reduce
> Solr
> >> >>>> heap
> >> >>>> > > > > > requirements:
> >> >>>> > > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolrPerformanceProblems#
> >> >>>> > > > > > Reducing_heap_requirements
> >> >>>> > > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> >>>> > > > > > Shawn
> >> >>>> > > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > > >
> >> >>>> > > > >
> >> >>>> > > >
> >> >>>> > > >
> >> >>>> > > >
> >> >>>> > > > --
> >> >>>> > > > With Regards
> >> >>>> > > > Aman Tandon
> >> >>>> > > >
> >> >>>> > >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>



-- 
Regards,
Shalin Shekhar Mangar.

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