Hi;

I'm not a committer yet but I want to share my thoughts from a perspective
of a user. I've been using SolrCloud since 4.1.0 version of it. I've read
nearly all e-mails and I follow mail list too. Solr project has a great
development cycle and has a frequent release cycle. In fact, if you compare
it with some other Apache Projects it is has really nice commit rates. I've
prepared a chart that explains the release cycle of Solr since 4.0 and
attached it to this e-mail to make everything clear.

When you check the chart that I prepared you will see that Solr has
followed that release cycle(for 4.x releases):
If needed it has always had bugfix releases. So except for 4.0, 4.1.0 and
4.4.0 it had bug fix-releases (I do not include 4.7). However bug-fix
releases are applied once for each main release. I mean there is no 4.3.2
after 4.3.1 or 4.6.2 after 4.6.1

When you use a project as like Solr you should catch up the current release
or current stable release (as like a bugfix release). I think question
should be that. If somebody finds a bug at a bugfix release what will
happen? Will be a 4.x.2 release or it will be resolved with 4.x+1.2?

I also think that solution can be that: maintaining 4.x.1 and applying
changes to both for 4.x+1.0 and 4.x.2 So if anybody wants to use new
features (of course with recently bug fixes) and accept the risk of new
features user can use 4.x+1.0 otherwise a more stable version: 4.x.2

This causes a new question. What will be the limit for "*y*" at 4.x.y? As a
perspective of a user who uses Solr and tests and checks its all versions
my thought is that: 2 (or 3) may be enough for that. Long term support is a
good idea (if you accept value of "*y*" as 2 or 3 it will be 4-6 months).
Solr is developing so fast and it has nearly good features that users
really need it.

"If maintenance is not a problem" to apply bug-fixes to a release of 4.x.2
and 4.x+1.0 having a "*y*" vale that is greater than "1" may be a solution.
If we just say that: "this release will be long term supported" -I think
that- people will want to use new releases after a time later because of
the new features nowadays. On the other hand if we release more than 1
bug-fix releases and if people do not need new features they will have a
more stable version of their current version and will be able to use it.

Thanks;
Furkan KAMACI


2014-03-12 18:34 GMT+02:00 Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com>:

> +1 to the idea, I love bug fix releases (which is why I volunteered to do
> the last couple).
>
> The main limiting factor is a volunteer to do it. Users requesting a
> specific bug fix relese is probably a good way to prompt volunteers though.
>
> --
> Mark Miller
> about.me/markrmiller
>
> On March 12, 2014 at 9:14:50 AM, Doug Turnbull (
> dturnb...@opensourceconnections.com) wrote:
>
> Hello Solr community,
>
> We have been using Solr to great effect at OpenSource Connections.
> Occasionally though, we'll hit a bug in say 4.5.1, that gets fixed in
> 4.6.0. Unfortunately, as 4.6.0 is a release sporting several new features,
> there's invariably new bugs that get introduced. So while my bug in 4.5.1
> is fixed, a new bug related to new features in 4.6.0 means 4.6.0 might be a
> showstopper.
>
> This is more a question for the PMC than anything (with comments from
> others welcome). Would it be possible to do more minor bug-fix releases? I
> realize this could be a burden, so maybe it would be good to pick a
> version and decide this will be a "long term support" release. We will
> backport bug fixes and do several additional bug-fix releases for 4-6
> months? Then we'd pick another version to be a "long term support" release?
>
> This would help with the overall stability of Solr and help in the decision
> about how/when to upgrade Solr.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Doug Turnbull
> Search & Big Data Architect
> OpenSource Connections <http://o19s.com>
>

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