+101 for more stats.  Was just saying that trying to pre-aggregate them
along multiple dimensions is probably best left out of Solr.

Otis
--
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On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that is silly. We can still offer per shard stats *and* let a user
> easily see stats for a collection without requiring they jump hoops or use
> a specific monitoring solution where someone else has already jumped hoops
> for them.
>
> You don't have to guess what ops people really want - *everyone* wants
> stats that make sense for the collections and cluster on top of the per
> shard stats. *Everyone* wouldn't mind seeing these without having to setup
> a monitoring solution first.
>
> If you want more than that, then you can fiddle with your monitoring
> solution.
>
> - Mark
>
> http://about.me/markrmiller
>
> On Feb 3, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Otis Gospodnetic <otis.gospodne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Oh, I just saw Greg's email on dev@ about this.
> > IMHO aggregating in the search engine is not the way to do.  Leave that
> to
> > external tools, which are likely to be more flexible when it comes to
> this.
> > For example, our SPM for Solr can do all kinds of aggregations and
> > filtering by a number of Solr and SolrCloud-specific dimensions already,
> > without Solr having to do any sort of aggregation that it thinks Ops
> people
> > will really want.
> >
> > Otis
> > --
> > Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics
> > Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> You should contribute that and spread the dev load with others :)
> >>
> >> We need something like that at some point, it's just no one has done it.
> >> We currently expect you to aggregate in the monitoring layer and it's a
> lot
> >> to ask IMO.
> >>
> >> - Mark
> >>
> >> http://about.me/markrmiller
> >>
> >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Greg Walters <greg.walt...@answers.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've had some issues monitoring Solr with the per-core mbeans and ended
> >> up writing a custom "request handler" that gets loaded then registers
> >> itself as an mbean. When called it polls all the per-core mbeans then
> adds
> >> or averages them where appropriate before returning the requested value.
> >> I'm not sure if there's a better way to get jvm-wide stats via jmx but
> it
> >> is *a* way to get it done.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Greg
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:33 AM, adfel70 <adfe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm sending all solr stats data to graphite.
> >>>> I have some questions:
> >>>> 1. query_handler/select requestTime -
> >>>> if i'm looking at some metric, lets say 75thPcRequestTime - I see that
> >> each
> >>>> core in a single collection has different values.
> >>>> Is each value of each core is the time that specific core spent on a
> >>>> request?
> >>>> so to get an idea of total request time, I should summarize all the
> >> values
> >>>> of all the cores?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2.update_handler/commits - does this include auto_commits? becuaste
> I'm
> >>>> pretty sure I'm not doing any manual commits and yet I see a number
> >> there.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. update_handler/docs pending - what does this mean? pending for
> what?
> >> for
> >>>> flush to disk?
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/need-help-in-understating-solr-cloud-stats-data-tp4114992.html
> >>>> Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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