Well, both have a score of -Infinity. So they're "equal" and
the tiebreaker is the internal Lucene doc ID.
Now this is not helpful since the question now is where
-Infinity comes from, this looks suspicious:
-Infinity = (MATCH) FunctionQuery(log(int(clicks))), product of:
-Infinity = log(int(clicks)=0)
not much help I know, but....
Erick
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Andreas Owen <a...@conx.ch> wrote:
> Hi Erick
>
> Here are the last 2 results from a search and i am not understanding why
> the
> last one with the boost editorschoice^200 isn't at the top. By the way can
> i
> also give a substantial boost to results that contain the hole
> search-request and not just 3 or 4 letters (tokens)?
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erick Erickson [mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Dienstag, 3. Dezember 2013 20:30
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: json update moves doc to end
>
> Try adding &debug=all and you'll see exactly how docs are scored. Also,
> it'll show you exactly how your query is parsed. Paste that if it's
> confused, it'll help figure out what's going wrong.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Andreas Owen <a...@conx.ch> wrote:
>
> > So isn't it sorted automaticly by relevance (boost value)? If not do
> > should i set it in solrconfig?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonathan Rochkind [mailto:rochk...@jhu.edu]
> > Sent: Dienstag, 3. Dezember 2013 19:07
> > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: json update moves doc to end
> >
> > What order, the order if you supply no explicit sort at all?
> >
> > Solr does not make any guarantees about what order documents will come
> > back in if you do not ask for a sort.
> >
> > In general in Solr/lucene, the only way to update a document is to
> > re-add it as a new document, so that's probably what's going on behind
> > the scenes, and it probably effects the 'default' sort order -- which
> > Solr makes no agreement about anyway, you probably shouldn't even
> > count on it being consistent at all.
> >
> > If you want a consistent sort order, maybe add a field with a
> > timestamp, and ask for results sorted by the timestamp field? And then
> > make sure not to change the timestamp when you do an update that you
> > don't want to change the order?
> >
> > Apologies if I've misunderstood the situation.
> >
> > On 12/3/13 1:00 PM, Andreas Owen wrote:
> > > When I search for "agenda" I get a lot of hits. Now if I update the 2.
> > > Result by json-update the doc is moved to the end of the index when
> > > I search for it again. The field I change is "editorschoice" and it
> > > never contains the search term "agenda" so I don't see why it
> > > changes the order. Why does it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Part of Solrconfig requesthandler I use:
> > >
> > > <requestHandler name="/select2" class="solr.SearchHandler">
> > >
> > > <lst name="defaults">
> > >
> > > <str name="echoParams">explicit</str>
> > >
> > > <int name="rows">10</int>
> > >
> > > <str name="defType">synonym_edismax</str>
> > >
> > > <str name="synonyms">true</str>
> > >
> > > <str name="qf">plain_text^10 editorschoice^200
> > >
> > > title^20 h_*^14
> > >
> > > tags^10 thema^15 inhaltstyp^6
> > > breadcrumb^6
> > > doctype^10
> > >
> > > contentmanager^5 links^5
> > >
> > > last_modified^5 url^5
> > >
> > > </str>
> > >
> > > <str name="bq">(expiration:[NOW TO *] OR (*:*
> > > -expiration:*))^6</str> <!-- tested: now or newer or empty gets
> > > small boost
> > > -->
> > >
> > > <str name="bf">log(clicks)^8</str> <!-- tested
> > > -->
> > >
> > > <!-- todo: anzahl-links(count urlparse in links
> > > query) / häufigkeit von suchbegriff (bf= count in title and text)-->
> > >
> > > <str name="df">text</str>
> > >
> > > <str name="fl">*,path,score</str>
> > >
> > > <str name="wt">json</str>
> > >
> > > <str name="q.op">AND</str>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > <!-- Highlighting defaults -->
> > >
> > > <str name="hl">on</str>
> > >
> > > <str name="hl.fl">plain_text,title</str>
> > >
> > > <str name="hl.simple.pre"><b></str>
> > >
> > > <str name="hl.simple.post"></b></str>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > <!-- <lst name="invariants"> -->
> > >
> > > <str name="facet">on</str>
> > >
> > > <str name="facet.mincount">1</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.field">{!ex=inhaltstyp}inhaltstyp</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="f.inhaltstyp.facet.sort">index</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.field">{!ex=doctype}doctype</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="f.doctype.facet.sort">index</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.field">{!ex=thema_f}thema_f</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="f.thema_f.facet.sort">index</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.field">{!ex=author_s}author_s</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="f.author_s.facet.sort">index</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.field">{!ex=sachverstaendiger_s}sachverstaendiger_s</str
> > > >
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="f.sachverstaendiger_s.facet.sort">index</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.field">{!ex=veranstaltung}veranstaltung</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="f.veranstaltung.facet.sort">index</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.date">{!ex=last_modified}last_modified</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.date.gap">+1MONTH</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.date.end">NOW/MONTH+1MONTH</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.date.start">NOW/MONTH-36MONTHS</str>
> > >
> > > <str
> > > name="facet.date.other">after</str>
> > >
> > > </lst>
> > >
> > > </requestHandler>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
