Things have actually improved quite a bit in that area. There have been many optimizations and additional ways to create large data structures off heap added in recent releases.
Someday G1 might even help a bit. - Mark On Oct 25, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Tim Vaillancourt <t...@elementspace.com> wrote: > I (jokingly) propose we take it a step further and drop Java :)! I'm getting > tired of trying to scale GC'ing JVMs! > > Tim > > On 25/10/13 09:02 AM, Mark Miller wrote: >> Just to add to the “use jetty for Solr” argument - Solr 5.0 will no longer >> consider itself a webapp and will consider the fact that Jetty is a used an >> implementation detail. >> >> We won’t necessarily make it impossible to use a different container, but >> the project won’t condone it or support it and may do some things that >> assume Jetty. Solr is taking over this layer in 5.0. >> >> - Mark >> >> On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Cassandra Targett<casstarg...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> In terms of adding or fixing documentation, the "Installing Solr" page >>> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Installing+Solr) >>> includes a yellow box that says: >>> >>> "Solr ships with a working Jetty server, with optimized settings for >>> Solr, inside the example directory. It is recommended that you use the >>> provided Jetty server for optimal performance. If you absolutely must >>> use a different servlet container then continue to the next section on >>> how to install Solr." >>> >>> So, it's stated, but maybe not in a way that makes it clear to most >>> users. And maybe it needs to be repeated in another section. >>> Suggestions? >>> >>> I did find this page, >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Running+Solr+on+Jetty, >>> which pretty much contradicts the previous text. I'll fix that now. >>> >>> Other recommendations for where doc could be more clear are welcome. >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Tim Vaillancourt<t...@elementspace.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Hmm, thats an interesting move. I'm on the fence on that one but it surely >>>> simplifies some things. Good info, thanks! >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24 October 2013 16:46, Anshum Gupta<ans...@anshumgupta.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thought you may want to have a look at this: >>>>> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-4792 >>>>> >>>>> P.S: There are no timelines for 5.0 for now, but it's the future >>>>> nevertheless. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Tim Vaillancourt<t...@elementspace.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I agree with Jonathan (and Shawn on the Jetty explanation), I think the >>>>>> docs should make this a bit more clear - I notice many people choosing >>>>>> Tomcat and then learning these details after, possibly regretting it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd be glad to modify the docs but I want to be careful how it is worded. >>>>>> Is it fair to go as far as saying Jetty is 100% THE "recommended" >>>>> container >>>>>> for Solr, or should a recommendation be avoided, and maybe just a list of >>>>>> pros/cons? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Anshum Gupta >>>>> http://www.anshumgupta.net >>>>>
