My take on it is this, assuming I'm reading this right: 1> SOLR-5216 - probably not going anywhere, 5232 will take care of it. 2> SOLR-5232 - expected to fix the underlying issue no matter whether you're using CloudSolrServer from SolrJ or sending lots of updates from lots of clients. 3> SOLR-4816 - use this patch and CloudSolrServer from SolrJ in the meantime.
I don't quite know whether SOLR-5232 will make it in to 4.5 or not, it hasn't been committed anywhere yet. The Solr 4.5 release is imminent, RC0 is looking like it'll be ready to cut next week so it might not be included. Best, Erick On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Tim Vaillancourt <t...@elementspace.com>wrote: > Lol, at breaking during a demo - always the way it is! :) I agree, we are > just tip-toeing around the issue, but waiting for 4.5 is definitely an > option if we "get-by" for now in testing; patched Solr versions seem to > make people uneasy sometimes :). > > Seeing there seems to be some danger to SOLR-5216 (in some ways it blows up > worse due to less limitations on thread), I'm guessing only SOLR-5232 and > SOLR-4816 are making it into 4.5? I feel those 2 in combination will make a > world of difference! > > Thanks so much again guys! > > Tim > > > > On 12 September 2013 03:43, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Fewer client threads updating makes sense, and going to 1 core also seems > > like it might help. But it's all a crap-shoot unless the underlying cause > > gets fixed up. Both would improve things, but you'll still hit the > problem > > sometime, probably when doing a demo for your boss ;). > > > > Adrien has branched the code for SOLR 4.5 in preparation for a release > > candidate tentatively scheduled for next week. You might just start > working > > with that branch if you can rather than apply individual patches... > > > > I suspect there'll be a couple more changes to this code (looks like > > Shikhar already raised an issue for instance) before 4.5 is finally > cut... > > > > FWIW, > > Erick > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Tim Vaillancourt <t...@elementspace.com > > >wrote: > > > > > Thanks Erick! > > > > > > Yeah, I think the next step will be CloudSolrServer with the SOLR-4816 > > > patch. I think that is a very, very useful patch by the way. SOLR-5232 > > > seems promising as well. > > > > > > I see your point on the more-shards idea, this is obviously a > > > global/instance-level lock. If I really had to, I suppose I could run > > more > > > Solr instances to reduce locking then? Currently I have 2 cores per > > > instance and I could go 1-to-1 to simplify things. > > > > > > The good news is we seem to be more stable since changing to a bigger > > > client->solr batch-size and fewer client threads updating. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > On 11/09/13 04:19 AM, Erick Erickson wrote: > > > > > >> If you use CloudSolrServer, you need to apply SOLR-4816 or use a > recent > > >> copy of the 4x branch. By "recent", I mean like today, it looks like > > Mark > > >> applied this early this morning. But several reports indicate that > this > > >> will > > >> solve your problem. > > >> > > >> I would expect that increasing the number of shards would make the > > problem > > >> worse, not > > >> better. > > >> > > >> There's also SOLR-5232... > > >> > > >> Best > > >> Erick > > >> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Tim Vaillancourt<tim@elementspace. > > **com<t...@elementspace.com> > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > >> Hey guys, > > >>> > > >>> Based on my understanding of the problem we are encountering, I feel > > >>> we've > > >>> been able to reduce the likelihood of this issue by making the > > following > > >>> changes to our app's usage of SolrCloud: > > >>> > > >>> 1) We increased our document batch size to 200 from 10 - our app > > batches > > >>> updates to reduce HTTP requests/overhead. The theory is increasing > the > > >>> batch size reduces the likelihood of this issue happening. > > >>> 2) We reduced to 1 application node sending updates to SolrCloud - we > > >>> write > > >>> Solr updates to Redis, and have previously had 4 application nodes > > >>> pushing > > >>> the updates to Solr (popping off the Redis queue). Reducing the > number > > of > > >>> nodes pushing to Solr reduces the concurrency on SolrCloud. > > >>> 3) Less threads pushing to SolrCloud - due to the increase in batch > > size, > > >>> we were able to go down to 5 update threads on the update-pushing-app > > >>> (from > > >>> 10 threads). > > >>> > > >>> To be clear the above only reduces the likelihood of the issue > > happening, > > >>> and DOES NOT actually resolve the issue at hand. > > >>> > > >>> If we happen to encounter issues with the above 3 changes, the next > > steps > > >>> (I could use some advice on) are: > > >>> > > >>> 1) Increase the number of shards (2x) - the theory here is this > reduces > > >>> the > > >>> locking on shards because there are more shards. Am I onto something > > >>> here, > > >>> or will this not help at all? > > >>> 2) Use CloudSolrServer - currently we have a plain-old > least-connection > > >>> HTTP VIP. If we go "direct" to what we need to update, this will > reduce > > >>> concurrency in SolrCloud a bit. Thoughts? > > >>> > > >>> Thanks all! > > >>> > > >>> Cheers, > > >>> > > >>> Tim > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 6 September 2013 14:47, Tim Vaillancourt<tim@elementspace.**com< > > t...@elementspace.com>> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Enjoy your trip, Mark! Thanks again for the help! > > >>>> > > >>>> Tim > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 6 September 2013 14:18, Mark Miller<markrmil...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Okay, thanks, useful info. Getting on a plane, but ill look more at > > >>>>> this > > >>>>> soon. That 10k thread spike is good to know - that's no good and > > could > > >>>>> easily be part of the problem. We want to keep that from happening. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Mark > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sep 6, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Tim Vaillancourt<tim@elementspace. > **com< > > t...@elementspace.com> > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hey Mark, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The farthest we've made it at the same batch size/volume was 12 > > hours > > >>>>>> without this patch, but that isn't consistent. Sometimes we would > > only > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> get > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> to 6 hours or less. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> During the crash I can see an amazing spike in threads to 10k > which > > is > > >>>>>> essentially our ulimit for the JVM, but I strangely see no > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> "OutOfMemory: > > >>> > > >>>> cannot open native thread errors" that always follow this. Weird! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We also notice a spike in CPU around the crash. The instability > > caused > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> some > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> shard recovery/replication though, so that CPU may be a symptom of > > the > > >>>>>> replication, or is possibly the root cause. The CPU spikes from > > about > > >>>>>> 20-30% utilization (system + user) to 60% fairly sharply, so the > > CPU, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> while > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> spiking isn't quite "pinned" (very beefy Dell R720s - 16 core > Xeons, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> whole > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> index is in 128GB RAM, 6xRAID10 15k). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> More on resources: our disk I/O seemed to spike about 2x during > the > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> crash > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> (about 1300kbps written to 3500kbps), but this may have been the > > >>>>>> replication, or ERROR logging (we generally log nothing due to > > >>>>>> WARN-severity unless something breaks). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Lastly, I found this stack trace occurring frequently, and have no > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> idea > > >>> > > >>>> what it is (may be useful or not): > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> "java.lang.**IllegalStateException : > > >>>>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > org.eclipse.jetty.server.**Response.resetBuffer(Response.**java:964) > > >>> > > >>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.server.**Response.sendError(Response.** > > >>>>>> java:325) > > >>>>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.apache.solr.servlet.**SolrDispatchFilter.sendError(** > > >>> SolrDispatchFilter.java:692) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.apache.solr.servlet.**SolrDispatchFilter.doFilter(** > > >>> SolrDispatchFilter.java:380) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.apache.solr.servlet.**SolrDispatchFilter.doFilter(** > > >>> SolrDispatchFilter.java:155) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.**ServletHandler$CachedChain.** > > >>> doFilter(ServletHandler.java:**1423) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.**ServletHandler.doHandle(** > > >>> ServletHandler.java:450) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.ScopedHandler.handle(** > > >>> ScopedHandler.java:138) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.security.**SecurityHandler.handle(** > > >>> SecurityHandler.java:564) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**session.SessionHandler.** > > >>> doHandle(SessionHandler.java:**213) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.ContextHandler.** > > >>> doHandle(ContextHandler.java:**1083) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.**ServletHandler.doScope(** > > >>> ServletHandler.java:379) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**session.SessionHandler.** > > >>> doScope(SessionHandler.java:**175) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.ContextHandler.** > > >>> doScope(ContextHandler.java:**1017) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.ScopedHandler.handle(** > > >>> ScopedHandler.java:136) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.**ContextHandlerCollection.** > > >>> handle(**ContextHandlerCollection.java:**258) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.HandlerCollection.** > > >>> handle(HandlerCollection.java:**109) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(** > > >>> HandlerWrapper.java:97) > > >>> > > >>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.server.**Server.handle(Server.java:445) > > >>>>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > org.eclipse.jetty.server.**HttpChannel.handle(**HttpChannel.java:260) > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**HttpConnection.onFillable(** > > >>> HttpConnection.java:225) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.io.**AbstractConnection$**ReadCallback.run(** > > >>> AbstractConnection.java:358) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.thread.**QueuedThreadPool.runJob(** > > >>> QueuedThreadPool.java:596) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.thread.**QueuedThreadPool$3.run(** > > >>> QueuedThreadPool.java:527) > > >>> > > >>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.**java:724)" > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On your live_nodes question, I don't have historical data on this > > from > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> when > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> the crash occurred, which I guess is what you're looking for. I > > could > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> add > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> this to our monitoring for future tests, however. I'd be glad to > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> continue > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> further testing, but I think first more monitoring is needed to > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> understand > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> this further. Could we come up with a list of metrics that would > be > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> useful > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> to see following another test and successful crash? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Metrics needed: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1) # of live_nodes. > > >>>>>> 2) Full stack traces. > > >>>>>> 3) CPU used by Solr's JVM specifically (instead of system-wide). > > >>>>>> 4) Solr's JVM thread count (already done) > > >>>>>> 5) ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Tim Vaillancourt > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 6 September 2013 13:11, Mark Miller<markrmil...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Did you ever get to index that long before without hitting the > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> deadlock? > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> There really isn't anything negative the patch could be > introducing, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> other > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> than allowing for some more threads to possibly run at once. If I > > had > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> to > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> guess, I would say its likely this patch fixes the deadlock issue > > and > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> your > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> seeing another issue - which looks like the system cannot keep up > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> with > > >>> > > >>>> the > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> requests or something for some reason - perhaps due to some OS > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> networking > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> settings or something (more guessing). Connection refused happens > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> generally > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> when there is nothing listening on the port. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Do you see anything interesting change with the rest of the > system? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> CPU > > >>> > > >>>> usage spikes or something like that? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Clamping down further on the overall number of threads night help > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> (which > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> would require making something configurable). How many nodes are > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> listed in > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> zk under live_nodes? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Mark > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Tim Vaillancourt<tim@elementspace. > > **com<t...@elementspace.com> > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Hey guys, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> (copy of my post to SOLR-5216) > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> We tested this patch and unfortunately encountered some serious > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> issues a > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> few hours of 500 update-batches/sec. Our update batch is 10 docs, > so > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> we > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> are > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> writing about 5000 docs/sec total, using autoCommit to commit > the > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> updates > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> (no explicit commits). > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Our environment: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Solr 4.3.1 w/SOLR-5216 patch. > > >>>>>>>> Jetty 9, Java 1.7. > > >>>>>>>> 3 solr instances, 1 per physical server. > > >>>>>>>> 1 collection. > > >>>>>>>> 3 shards. > > >>>>>>>> 2 replicas (each instance is a leader and a replica). > > >>>>>>>> Soft autoCommit is 1000ms. > > >>>>>>>> Hard autoCommit is 15000ms. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> After about 6 hours of stress-testing this patch, we see many of > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> these > > >>> > > >>>> stalled transactions (below), and the Solr instances start to see > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> each > > >>> > > >>>> other as down, flooding our Solr logs with "Connection Refused" > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> exceptions, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> and otherwise no obviously-useful logs that I could see. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I did notice some stalled transactions on both /select and > > /update, > > >>>>>>>> however. This never occurred without this patch. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Stack /select seems stalled on: http://pastebin.com/Y1NCrXGC > > >>>>>>>> Stack /update seems stalled on: http://pastebin.com/cFLbC8Y9 > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Lastly, I have a summary of the ERROR-severity logs from this > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 24-hour > > >>> > > >>>> soak. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> My script "normalizes" the ERROR-severity stack traces and > returns > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> them > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> in > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> order of occurrence. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Summary of my solr.log: http://pastebin.com/pBdMAWeb > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks! > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Tim Vaillancourt > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On 6 September 2013 07:27, Markus Jelsma< > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> markus.jel...@openindex.io> > > >>> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks! > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> -----Original message----- > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> From:Erick Erickson<erickerickson@gmail.**com< > > erickerick...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday 6th September 2013 16:20 > > >>>>>>>>>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: SolrCloud 4.x hangs under high update volume > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Markus: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> See: https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/SOLR-5216< > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-5216> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Markus Jelsma > > >>>>>>>>>> <markus.jel...@openindex.io>**wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark, > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Got an issue to watch? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>>>>>>> Markus > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original message----- > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> From:Mark Miller<markrmil...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday 4th September 2013 16:55 > > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: SolrCloud 4.x hangs under high update volume > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to try and fix the root cause for 4.5 - I've > > suspected > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> what it > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> is since early this year, but it's never personally been an > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> issue, > > >>> > > >>>> so > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> it's > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> rolled along for a long time. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Mark > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Tim Vaillancourt< > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> t...@elementspace.com> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am looking into an issue we've been having with SolrCloud > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> since > > >>> > > >>>> the > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> beginning of our testing, all the way from 4.1 to 4.3 (haven't > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> tested > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> 4.4.0 > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet). I've noticed other users with this same issue, so I'd > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> really > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> like to > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> get to the bottom of it. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Under a very, very high rate of updates (2000+/sec), after > > 1-12 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> hours > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> see stalled transactions that snowball to consume all Jetty > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> threads in > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> JVM. This eventually causes the JVM to hang with most > threads > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> waiting > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> on > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the condition/stack provided at the bottom of this message. > At > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> this > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> point > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> SolrCloud instances then start to see their neighbors (who > > also > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> all > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> threads hung) as down w/"Connection Refused", and the shards > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> become > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> "down" > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> in state. Sometimes a node or two survives and just returns > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 503s > > >>> > > >>>> "no > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> server > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> hosting shard" errors. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> As a workaround/experiment, we have tuned the number of > > threads > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sending > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> updates to Solr, as well as the batch size (we batch updates > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from > > >>> > > >>>> client -> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> solr), and the Soft/Hard autoCommits, all to no avail. > Turning > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> off > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Client-to-Solr batching (1 update = 1 call to Solr), which also > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> did not > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> help. Certain combinations of update threads and batch sizes > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> seem > > >>> > > >>>> to > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> mask/help the problem, but not resolve it entirely. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Our current environment is the following: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3 x Solr 4.3.1 instances in Jetty 9 w/Java 7. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3 x Zookeeper instances, external Java 7 JVM. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - 1 collection, 3 shards, 2 replicas (each node is a leader > > of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1 > > >>> > > >>>> shard > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a replica of 1 shard). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Log4j 1.2 for Solr logs, set to WARN. This log has no > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> movement > > >>> > > >>>> on a > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> good > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> day. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - 5000 max jetty threads (well above what we use when we > are > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> healthy), > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Linux-user threads ulimit is 6000. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Occurs under Jetty 8 or 9 (many versions). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Occurs under Java 1.6 or 1.7 (several minor versions). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Occurs under several JVM tunings. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Everything seems to point to Solr itself, and not a Jetty > > or > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Java > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> version > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (I hope I'm wrong). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The stack trace that is holding up all my Jetty QTP threads > > is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> following, which seems to be waiting on a lock that I would > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> very > > >>> > > >>>> much > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> like > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to understand further: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (parking) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> at sun.misc.Unsafe.park(Native Method) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> - parking to wait for<0x00000007216e68d8> (a > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.**Semaphore$NonfairSync) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.**LockSupport.park(LockSupport.** > > >>>>>>>>> java:186) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.**AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.** > > >>> parkAndCheckInterrupt(**AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.**java:834) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.**AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.** > > >>> doAcquireSharedInterruptibly(**AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.**java:994) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.locks.**AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.** > > >>> acquireSharedInterruptibly(**AbstractQueuedSynchronizer.**java:1303) > > >>> > > >>>> at java.util.concurrent.**Semaphore.acquire(Semaphore.**java:317) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.util.**AdjustableSemaphore.acquire(** > > >>> AdjustableSemaphore.java:61) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.update.**SolrCmdDistributor.submit(** > > >>> SolrCmdDistributor.java:418) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.update.**SolrCmdDistributor.submit(** > > >>> SolrCmdDistributor.java:368) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.update.**SolrCmdDistributor.flushAdds(** > > >>> SolrCmdDistributor.java:300) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.update.**SolrCmdDistributor.finish(** > > >>> SolrCmdDistributor.java:96) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.update.**processor.** > > >>> DistributedUpdateProcessor.**doFinish(**DistributedUpdateProcessor.** > > >>> java:462) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.update.**processor.** > > >>> DistributedUpdateProcessor.**finish(**DistributedUpdateProcessor.** > > >>> java:1178) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.handler.**ContentStreamHandlerBase.** > > >>> handleRequestBody(**ContentStreamHandlerBase.java:**83) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > org.apache.solr.handler.**RequestHandlerBase.**handleRequest(** > > >>> RequestHandlerBase.java:135) > > >>> > > >>>> at org.apache.solr.core.SolrCore.**execute(SolrCore.java:1820) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.servlet.**SolrDispatchFilter.execute(** > > >>> SolrDispatchFilter.java:656) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.servlet.**SolrDispatchFilter.doFilter(** > > >>> SolrDispatchFilter.java:359) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.solr.servlet.**SolrDispatchFilter.doFilter(** > > >>> SolrDispatchFilter.java:155) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.**ServletHandler$CachedChain.** > > >>> doFilter(ServletHandler.java:**1486) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.**ServletHandler.doHandle(** > > >>> ServletHandler.java:503) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.ScopedHandler.handle(** > > >>> ScopedHandler.java:138) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.security.**SecurityHandler.handle(** > > >>> SecurityHandler.java:564) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**session.SessionHandler.** > > >>> doHandle(SessionHandler.java:**213) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.ContextHandler.** > > >>> doHandle(ContextHandler.java:**1096) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.**ServletHandler.doScope(** > > >>> ServletHandler.java:432) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**session.SessionHandler.** > > >>> doScope(SessionHandler.java:**175) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.ContextHandler.** > > >>> doScope(ContextHandler.java:**1030) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.ScopedHandler.handle(** > > >>> ScopedHandler.java:136) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.**ContextHandlerCollection.* > > >>> *handle(**ContextHandlerCollection.java:**201) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.HandlerCollection.** > > >>> handle(HandlerCollection.java:**109) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(** > > >>> HandlerWrapper.java:97) > > >>> > > >>>> at org.eclipse.jetty.server.**Server.handle(Server.java:445) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**HttpChannel.handle(** > > >>>>>>>>> HttpChannel.java:268) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.**HttpConnection.onFillable(** > > >>> HttpConnection.java:229) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > org.eclipse.jetty.io.**AbstractConnection$**ReadCallback.run(** > > >>> AbstractConnection.java:358) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.thread.**QueuedThreadPool.runJob(** > > >>> QueuedThreadPool.java:601) > > >>> > > >>>> at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jetty.util.thread.**QueuedThreadPool$3.run(** > > >>> QueuedThreadPool.java:532) > > >>> > > >>>> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.**java:724)" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some questions I had were: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) What exclusive locks does SolrCloud "make" when > performing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> an > > >>> > > >>>> update? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Keeping in mind I do not read or write java (sorry :D), > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> could > > >>> > > >>>> someone > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> help me understand "what" solr is locking in this case at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "org.apache.solr.util.**AdjustableSemaphore.acquire(** > > >>> AdjustableSemaphore.java:61)" > > >>> > > >>>> when performing an update? That will help me understand where > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>> > > >>>> look > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> next. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3) It seems all threads in this state are waiting for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "0x00000007216e68d8", > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is there a way to tell what "0x00000007216e68d8" is? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Is there a limit to how many updates you can do in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> SolrCloud? > > >>> > > >>>> 5) Wild-ass-theory: would more shards provide more locks > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (whatever > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> they > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> are) on update, and thus more update throughput? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To those interested, I've provided a stacktrace of 1 of 3 > > nodes > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> at > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >
