Thanks. Yeah I don't really want the queryNorm on....
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Daniel Collins <danwcoll...@gmail.com>wrote: > I don't know the full answer to your question, but here's what I can offer. > > Solr offers 2 types of normalisation, FieldNorm and QueryNorm. FieldNorm > is as the name suggests field level normalisation, based on length of the > field, and can be controlled by the omitNorms parameter on the field. In > your example, fieldNorm is always 1.0, see below, so that suggests you have > correctly turned off field normalisation on the name_edgy field. > > 1.0 = fieldNorm(field=name_edgy, doc=231378) > > QueryNorm is what I'm still trying to get to the bottom of exactly :) But > its something that tries to normalise the results of different term queries > so they are broadly comparable. You haven't supplied the query you've run , > but based on the qf, bf, I'm assuming it breaks down into a DisMax query on > 3 fields (name_edgy, name_edge, name_word) so queryNorm is trying to ensure > that the results of those 3 queries can be compared. The exact details of > it I'm still trying to get to the bottom of (any volunteers with more info > chip in!) > > From earlier answers to the list, queryNorm is calculated in the Similarity > object, I need to dig further, but that's probably a good place to start. > > > > On 10 July 2013 04:57, William Bell <billnb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have a field that has omitNorms=true, but when I look at debugQuery I > see > > that > > the field is being normalized for the score. > > > > What can I do to turn off normalization in the score? > > > > I want a simple way to do 2 things: > > > > boost geodist() highest at 1 mile and lowest at 100 miles. > > plus add a boost for a query=edgefield^5. > > > > I only want tf() and no queryNorm. I am not even sure I want idf() but I > > can probably live with rare names being boosted. > > > > > > > > The results are being normalized. See below. I tried dismax and edismax - > > bf, bq and boost. > > > > <requestHandler name="autoproviderdist" class="solr.SearchHandler"> > > <lst name="defaults"> > > <str name="echoParams">none</str> > > <str name="defType">edismax</str> > > <float name="tie">0.01</float> > > <str name="fl"> > > display_name,city_state,prov_url,pwid,city_state_alternative > > </str> > > <!-- > > <str name="bq">_val_:"sum(recip(geodist(store_geohash), .5, 6, 6), > > 0.1)"^10</str> > > --> > > <str name="boost">sum(recip(geodist(store_geohash), .5, 6, 6), 0.1)</str> > > <int name="rows">5</int> > > <str name="q.alt">*:*</str> > > <str name="qf">name_edgy^.9 name_edge^.9 name_word</str> > > <str name="group">true</str> > > <str name="group.field">pwid</str> > > <str name="group.main">true</str> > > <!-- <str name="pf">name_edgy</str> do not turn on --> > > <str name="sort">score desc, last_name asc</str> > > <str name="d">100</str> > > <str name="pt">39.740112,-104.984856</str> > > <str name="sfield">store_geohash</str> > > <str name="hl">false</str> > > <str name="hl.fl">name_edgy</str> > > <str name="mm">2<-1 4<-2 6<-3</str> > > </lst> > > </requestHandler> > > > > 0.058555886 = queryNorm > > > > product of: 10.854807 = (MATCH) sum of: 1.8391232 = (MATCH) max plus 0.01 > > times others of: 1.8214592 = (MATCH) weight(name_edge:paul^0.9 in > 231378), > > product of: 0.30982485 = queryWeight(name_edge:paul^0.9), product of: > 0.9 = > > boost 5.8789964 = idf(docFreq=26567, maxDocs=3493655)* 0.058555886 = > > queryNorm* 5.8789964 = (MATCH) fieldWeight(name_edge:paul in 231378), > > product of: 1.0 = tf(termFreq(name_edge:paul)=1) 5.8789964 = > > idf(docFreq=26567, maxDocs=3493655) 1.0 = fieldNorm(field=name_edge, > > doc=231378) 1.7664119 = (MATCH) weight(name_edgy:paul^0.9 in 231378), > > product of: 0.30510724 = queryWeight(name_edgy:paul^0.9), product of: > 0.9 = > > boost 5.789479 = idf(docFreq=29055, maxDocs=3493655)* 0.058555886 = > > queryNorm* 5.789479 = (MATCH) fieldWeight(name_edgy:paul in 231378), > > product of: 1.0 = tf(termFreq(name_edgy:paul)=1) 5.789479 = > > idf(docFreq=29055, maxDocs=3493655) 1.0 = fieldNorm(field=name_edgy, > > doc=231378) 9.015684 = (MATCH) max plus 0.01 times others of: 8.9352665 = > > (MATCH) weight(name_word:nutting in 231378), product of: 0.72333425 = > > queryWeight(name_word:nutting), product of: 12.352887 = idf(docFreq=40, > > maxDocs=3493655) 0.058555886 = queryNorm 12.352887 = (MATCH) > > fieldWeight(name_word:nutting in 231378), product of: 1.0 = > > tf(termFreq(name_word:nutting)=1) 12.352887 = idf(docFreq=40, > > maxDocs=3493655) 1.0 = fieldNorm(field=name_word, doc=231378) 8.04174 = > > (MATCH) weight(name_edgy:nutting^0.9 in 231378), product of: 0.65100086 = > > queryWeight(name_edgy:nutting^0.9), product of: 0.9 = boost 12.352887 = > > idf(docFreq=40, maxDocs=3493655)* 0.058555886 = queryNorm* 12.352887 = > > (MATCH) fieldWeight(name_edgy:nutting in 231378), product of: 1.0 = > > tf(termFreq(name_edgy:nutting)=1) 12.352887 = idf(docFreq=40, > > maxDocs=3493655) 1.0 = fieldNorm(field=name_edgy, doc=231378) 1.0855998 = > > > > > sum(6.0/(0.5*float(geodist(39.74168747663498,-104.9849385023117,39.740112,-104.984856))+6.0),const(0.1)) > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill Bell > > billnb...@gmail.com > > cell 720-256-8076 > > > -- Bill Bell billnb...@gmail.com cell 720-256-8076
