Why don't you index all ancestor classes with the document, as a
multivalued field, then you could get it in one hit. Am I missing
something?

Upayavira

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013, at 01:59 AM, Jack Park wrote:
> Hi Otis,
> That's essentially the answer I was looking for: each shard (are we
> talking master + replicas?) has the plug-in custom query handler.  I
> need to build it to find out.
> 
> What I mean is that there is a taxonomy, say one with a single root
> for sake of illustration, which grows all the classes, subclasses, and
> instances. If I have an object that is somewhere in that taxonomy,
> then it has a zigzag chain of parents up that tree (I've seen that
> called a "transitive closure". If class B is way up that tree from M,
> no telling how many queries it will take to find it.  Hmmm...
> recursive ascent, I suppose.
> 
> Many thanks
> Jack
> 
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Otis Gospodnetic
> <otis.gospodne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Jack,
> >
> > I don't fully understand the exact taxonomy structure and your needs,
> > but in terms of reducing the number of HTTP round trips, you can do it
> > by writing a custom SearchComponent that, upon getting the initial
> > request, does everything "locally", meaning that it talks to the
> > local/specified shard before returning to the caller.  In SolrCloud
> > setup with N shards, each of these N shards could be queried in such a
> > way in parallel, running query/queries on their local shards.
> >
> > Otis
> > --
> > Solr & ElasticSearch Support
> > http://sematext.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Jack Park <jackp...@topicquests.org> wrote:
> >> Hi Otis,
> >>
> >> I fully expect to grow to SolrCloud -- many shards. For now, it's
> >> solo. But, my thinking relates to cloud. I look for ways to reduce the
> >> number of HTTP round trips through SolrJ. Maybe you have some ideas?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Jack
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Otis Gospodnetic
> >> <otis.gospodne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi Jack,
> >>>
> >>> Is this really about HTTP and Solr vs. SolrCloud or more whether
> >>> Solr(Cloud) is the right tool for the job and if so how to structure
> >>> the schema and queries to make such lookups efficient?
> >>>
> >>> Otis
> >>> --
> >>> Solr & ElasticSearch Support
> >>> http://sematext.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Jack Park <jackp...@topicquests.org> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> This is a question about "isA?"
> >>>>
> >>>> We want to know if M isA B   isA?(M,B)
> >>>>
> >>>> For some M, one might be able to look into M to see its type or which
> >>>> class(es) for which it is a subClass. We're talking taxonomic queries
> >>>> now.
> >>>> But, for some M, one might need to ripple up the "transitive closure",
> >>>> looking at all the super classes, etc, recursively.
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems unreasonable to do that over HTTP; it seems more reasonable
> >>>> to grab a core and write a custom isA query handler. But, how do you
> >>>> do that in a SolrCloud?
> >>>>
> >>>> Really curious...
> >>>>
> >>>> Many thanks in advance for ideas.
> >>>> Jack

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