I sent this request to "ServerA" in this case, which became the leader of all 
shards. As far as I know you're supposed to issue this call to just one server 
as it issues the calls to the other leaders/replicas in the background, right?

I am expecting the single collections API call to spread the leaders evenly 
across SOLR instances.

Hopefully I am just doing/expecting something wrong :).

Tim Vaillancourt

-----Original Message-----
From: Upayavira [mailto:u...@odoko.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:44 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Is it possible to manually select a shard leader in a running 
SolrCloud?

Which of your three hosts did you point this request at?

Upayavira

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013, at 09:13 PM, Vaillancourt, Tim wrote:
> Correction, I used this curl:
> 
> curl -v
> 'http://<HOST>:8983/solr/admin/collections?action=CREATE&name=test&numShards=3&replicationFactor=2&maxShardsPerNode=2'
> 
> So 3 instances, 3 shards, 2 replicas per shard. ServerA becomes leader 
> of all 3 shards in 4.1 with this call.
> 
> Tim Vaillancourt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vaillancourt, Tim [mailto:tvaillanco...@ea.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:27 AM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org; markrmil...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: Is it possible to manually select a shard leader in a 
> running SolrCloud?
> 
> Thanks Mark,
> 
> The real driver for me wanting to promote a different leader is when I 
> create a new Collection via the Collections API across a multi-server 
> SolrCloud, the leader of each shard is always the same host, so you're 
> right that I'm tackling the wrong problem with this request, although 
> it would fix it for me.
> 
> If I create the cores manually via the cores API, one-by-one, I am 
> able to get what I expect, but when running this Collections API call 
> on a 3 SOLR 4.1 instance, 3 shard setup, 1 server becomes the leader 
> of all 3 shards, meaning it will get all the writes for everything 
> (correct me if I am wrong). If so, this will not scale well with all 
> writes to one node (or correct me if I am wrong)?
> 
> curl -v
> 'http://<HOST>:8983/solr/admin/collections?action=CREATE&name=test&numShards=3&replicationFactor=1&maxShardsPerNode=2'
> 
> Currently on my 3 instance SOLR 4.1 setup, the above call creates the
> following:
> 
> - ServerA is the leader of all 3 shards (the problem I want to address).
> - ServerB + ServerC are automagically replicas of the 3 leader shards 
> on ServerA.
> 
> So again, my issue is one server gets all the writes. Does anyone else 
> encounter this? If so, I should spawn a separate thread on my specific 
> issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Miller [mailto:markrmil...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:44 PM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Is it possible to manually select a shard leader in a 
> running SolrCloud?
> 
> You can't easily do it the way it's implemented in ZooKeeper. We would 
> probably internally have to do the same thing - elect a new leader and 
> drop him until the one we wanted came up. The main thing doing it 
> internally would gain is that you could skip the elected guy from 
> becoming the actual leader and just move on to the next candidate.
> Still some tricky corner cases to deal with and such as well.
> 
> I think for most things you would use this to solve, there is probably 
> an alternate thing that should be addressed.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Vaillancourt, Tim 
> <tvaillanco...@ea.com>
> wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I feel having to unload the leader core to force an election is "hacky", 
> > and as far as I know would still leave which node becomes the Leader to 
> > chance, ie I cannot guarantee "NodeX" becomes Leader 100% in all cases.
> >
> > Also, this imposes additional load temporarily.
> >
> > Is there a way to force the winner of the Election, and if not, is there a 
> > known feature-request for this?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tim Vaillancourt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Dale [mailto:joey.d...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 7:42 AM
> > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Is it possible to manually select a shard leader in a running 
> > SolrCloud?
> >
> > With solrclound all cores are collections. The collections API it just a 
> > wrapper to call the core api a million times with one command.
> >
> > to 
> > /solr/admin/cores?action=CREATE&name=core1&collection=core1&shard=1
> >
> > Basically your "creating" the shard again, after leader props have gone 
> > out. Solr will check ZK and find a core meeting that description, then 
> > simply get a copy of the index from the leader of that shard.
> >
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Brett Hoerner <br...@bretthoerner.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What is the inverse I'd use to re-create/load a core on another 
> >> machine but make sure it's also "known" to SolrCloud/as a shard?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Joseph Dale <joey.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> To be more clear lets say bob it the leader of core 1. On bob do a 
> >>> /admin/cores?action=unload&name=core1. This removes the core/shard 
> >>> from bob, giving the other servers a chance to grab leader props.
> >>>
> >>> -Joey
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 2, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Brett Hoerner <br...@bretthoerner.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a 5 server cluster running 1 collection with 20 shards,
> >>> replication
> >>>> factor of 2.
> >>>>
> >>>> Earlier this week I had to do a rolling restart across the 
> >>>> cluster, this worked great and the cluster stayed up the whole 
> >>>> time. The problem is
> >>> that
> >>>> the last node I restarted is now the leader of 0 shards, and is 
> >>>> just holding replicas.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've noticed this node has abnormally high load average, while 
> >>>> the other nodes (who have the same number of shards, but more 
> >>>> leaders on
> >>>> average)
> >>> are
> >>>> fine.
> >>>>
> >>>> First, I'm wondering if that loud could be related to being a 5x 
> >>>> replica and 0x leader?
> >>>>
> >>>> Second, I was wondering if I could somehow flag single shards to
> >>> re-elect a
> >>>> leader (or force a leader) so that I could more evenly distribute 
> >>>> how
> >>> many
> >>>> leader shards each physical server has running?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> - Mark
> 

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