Prateesh:

I'm not understanding here. I believe Tamanjit is correct. Your example
works if and only if *all* the groups are returned, which happens in the
example case but not in the general case. Try your experiment with

&rows=3 and you'll find that (trunk, example)

This search:
http://localhost:8983/solr/select?q=*:*&group=true&group.field=manu_exact&group.ngroups=true&rows=3
returns this (lots of stuff removed for clarity)

<response>
  <lst name="responseHeader">
    <lst name="params">
      <str name="group.field">manu_exact</str>
      <str name="group.ngroups">true</str>
      <str name="group">true</str>
      <str name="q">*:*</str>
      <str name="rows">3</str>
    </lst>
  </lst>
  <lst name="grouped">
    <lst name="manu_exact">
      <int name="matches">28</int>
      <int name="ngroups">13</int>
      <arr name="groups">
        <lst>
          <null name="groupValue"/>
          <result name="doclist" numFound="12" start="0">

          </result>
        </lst>
        <lst>
          <str name="groupValue">Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd.</str>
          <result name="doclist" numFound="1" start="0">
          </result>
        </lst>
        <lst>
          <str name="groupValue">Maxtor Corp.</str>
          <result name="doclist" numFound="1" start="0">
          </result>
        </lst>
      </arr>
    </lst>
  </lst>
</response>

Sum of numfounds is different than matches.

Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding your example...

Best
Erick

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:46 AM, preetesh dubey <dubeypreet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nope!
> if u r doing grouping then "matches" is always the total no. of results and
> "ngroups" is the number of groups. Every groups can have some docs
> belonging to it which can be anything according to provided parameter
> "group.limit". If u get the sum of all the docs of each group, then it's
> equivalent to "matches".
> Ok.....u can do one experiment.....execute a simple query in solr which
> returns very few results.
> 1)execute the query *without grouping* in browser and check the xml/json
> response...it will show u the total no. of result matches as a response in
> "numFound"...e,g.
> <result name="response" numFound="20" start="0">
> lets say it.....
> *a)* numFound*withoutgrouping=20*
> 2) Now execute the query same *with grouping *parameters* *and* *look at
> the xml/json response in browser. it will show u the results like this....
> /**********
> <lst name="groupid">
> <int name="matches">20</int>
> <int name="ngroups">12</int>
> <arr name="groups">
> <lst>
> <str name="groupValue">4362</str>
> <result name="doclist" numFound="1" start="0">...</result>
> </lst>
> <lst>
> <str name="groupValue">3170</str>
> <result name="doclist" numFound="3" start="0">...</result>
> </lst>
> **********/
>
> b)matcheswithgroups=20
>
> Now do the sum of docs of every group...
> <result name="doclist" numFound="1" start="0">...</result>
> <result name="doclist" numFound="3" start="0">...</result>
> sum of  numFound="1",  numFound="3" .....
> lets say
> *
> *
> *c) sumofgroups*=1+3+.......u will find a==b==c at last.....
> do that experiment and reply back......
>
> after doing sum compare the a), b), c)
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:32 AM, tamanjit.bin...@yahoo.co.in <
> tamanjit.bin...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>> Ummm.. I think there is some confusion here.
>>
>> As per my understanding, matches is the total no of docs which the original
>> query/filter query returned. On these docs grouping is done. So matches may
>> not be actually equal to total no. of returned in your result, post
>> grouping. Its just a subset of the matches, divided into groups.
>>
>> Is my understanding correct?
>>
>> --
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks & Regards
> Preetesh Dubey

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