Hi, Can you paste exactly both <fieldType> and <field> definitions from your schema? omitNorms="true" should kill norms.
-- Jan Høydahl, search solution architect Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com Solr Training - www.solrtraining.com On 19. jan. 2012, at 08:18, remi tassing wrote: > Hi, > > just a background on my setup. I'm crawling with Nutch-1.2, I used Solr-1.4 > and Solr-3.5, with the same result. Solr is still using the default > settings. > > I found this problem just by accident. I queried "mobile broadband", page > A, has 2 occurences and scores higher than page B that has 19 occurences. I > found it weird and that's why I started investigating. > > The debug results are given below and you can see that queryWeight, idf > and queryNorm are the same, tf is higher, as expected, in B but what makes > the difference is clearly fieldNorm. > > A: 0.010779975 = (MATCH) weight(content:"mobil broadband" in 18730), > product of: 1.0 = queryWeight(content:"mobil broadband"), product of: > 6.2444286 = idf(content: mobil=4922 broadband=2290) 0.16014275 = queryNorm > 0.010779975 = fieldWeight(content:"mobil broadband" in 18730), product of: > 1.4142135 = tf(phraseFreq=2.0) 6.2444286 = idf(content: mobil=4922 > broadband=2290) 0.0012207031 = fieldNorm(field=content, doc=18730) > > B: 8.5223187E-4 = (MATCH) weight(content:"mobil broadband" in 14391), > product of: 1.0 = queryWeight(content:"mobil broadband"), product of: > 6.2444286 = idf(content: mobil=4922 broadband=2290) 0.16014275 = queryNorm > 8.5223187E-4 = fieldWeight(content:"mobil broadband" in 14391), product of: > 4.472136 = tf(phraseFreq=20.0) 6.2444286 = idf(content: mobil=4922 > broadband=2290) 3.0517578E-5 = fieldNorm(field=content, doc=14391) > > Remi > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote: > >>> I've come accros a problem where newly indexed pages almost always come >>> first even when the term frequency is relatively slow. >> >> There is no inherent index-time boost, so this must be something else. >> Can you give us an example of a query? Which query parser do you use? >> >>> I read the posts below on "fieldNorm" and "omitNorms" but setting >>> "omitNorms=true" doesn't change anything for me on the calculation of >>> fieldNorm. >> >> Are you sure you have spelled omitNorms="true" correctly, then restarted >> Solr (to refresh config)? The effect of Norms on your score will be that >> shorter fields score higher than long fields. >> >> Perhaps you instead can try to tell us your use-case. What kind of raning >> are you trying to achieve? Then we can help suggest how to get there. >> >> -- >> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect >> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com >> Solr Training - www.solrtraining.com
