Ok thank you very much for clearing that up a little. I think another reason
I was confused was that the wiki page for grouping was based around the
original field collapsing plan at the time which led me to the jira and
hence the patch files, rant over!

Perhaps you can help to clarify if the current grouping changes work with
solrj? In QueryResponse.setResponse() there is a loop which builds up the
results object, but has no check at present for "grouped" in the NamedList,
so the solrj client gets no results back when searching with grouping
parameters. I assume I can add this on my local working copy and all will be
well?

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