I third that request.

Would greatly appreciate taking a look at that diagram!

Regards,

Jonathan

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Isan Fulia <isan.fu...@germinait.com> wrote:

> Hi Ephraim/Jen,
>
> Can u share that diagram with all.It may really help all of us.
> Thanks,
> Isan Fulia.
>
> On 6 April 2011 10:15, Tirthankar Chatterjee <tchatter...@commvault.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Jen,
> > Can you please forward the diagram attachment too that Ephraim sent. :-)
> > Thanks,
> > Tirthankar
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jens Mueller [mailto:supidupi...@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:30 PM
> > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: FW: Very very large scale Solr Deployment = how to do
> (Expert
> > Question)?
> >
> > Hello Ephraim,
> >
> > thank you so much for the great Document/Scaling-Concept!!
> >
> > First I think you really should publish this on the solr wiki. This
> > approach is nowhere documented there and not really obvious for newbies
> and
> > your document is great and explains this very well!
> >
> > Please allow me to further questions regarding your document:
> > 1.) Is it correct, that you mean by "DB" the Origin-Data-Source of the
> data
> > that is fed into the Solr "Cloud" for searching?
> >
> > 2.) Solr Aggregator: This term did not yeald any google results, but is a
> > very important aspect of your design (and this was the missing piece for
> me
> > when thinking about solr architectures): Is it cocrrec that the
> > "aggregators" are simply tomcat instances, with the solr webapp deployed?
> > These Aggregators do not have their own index but only run the solr
> webapp
> > and I access them via the ?shard= parameter giving the shards I want to
> > query? (So in the end they aggreate the data of the shards but do not
> have
> > their own data). This is really an important aspect that is not
> documented
> > well enough in the solr documentation.
> >
> > Thank you very much!
> > Jens
> >
> >
> > 2011/4/5 Ephraim Ofir <ephra...@icq.com>
> >
> > > of course the attachment didn't get to the list, so here it is if you
> > > want it...
> > >
> > > Ephraim Ofir
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ephraim Ofir
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:20 AM
> > > To: 'solr-user@lucene.apache.org'
> > > Subject: RE: Very very large scale Solr Deployment = how to do (Expert
> > > Question)?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure about the scale you're aiming for, but you probably want
> > > to do both sharding and replication.  There's no central server which
> > > would be the bottleneck. The guidelines should probably be something
> > like:
> > > 1. Split your index to enough shards so it can keep up with the update
> > > rate.
> > > 2. Have enough replicates of each shard master to keep up with the
> > > rate of queries.
> > > 3. Have enough aggregators in front of the shard replicates so the
> > > aggregation doesn't become a bottleneck.
> > > 4. Make sure you have good load balancing across your system.
> > >
> > > Attached is a diagram of the setup we have.  You might want to look
> > > into SolrCloud as well.
> > >
> > > Ephraim Ofir
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jens Mueller [mailto:supidupi...@googlemail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:25 AM
> > > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > > Subject: Very very large scale Solr Deployment = how to do (Expert
> > > Question)?
> > >
> > > Hello Experts,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am a Solr newbie but read quite a lot of docs. I still do not
> > > understand what would be the best way to setup very large scale
> > > deployments:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Goal (threoretical):
> > >
> > >  A.) Index-Size: 1 Petabyte (1 Document is about 5 KB in Size)
> > >
> > >  B) Queries: 100000 Queries/ per Second
> > >
> > >  C) Updates: 100000 Updates / per Second
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Solr offers:
> > >
> > > 1.)    Replication => Scales Well for B)  BUT  A) and C) are not
> > > satisfied
> > >
> > >
> > > 2.)    Sharding => Scales well for A) BUT B) and C) are not satisfied
> > > (=> As
> > > I understand the Sharding approach all goes through a central server,
> > > that dispatches the updates and assembles the quries retrieved from
> > > the different shards. But this central server has also some capacity
> > > limits...)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the right approach to handle such large deployments? I would
> > > be thankfull for just a rough sketch of the concepts so I can
> > > experiment/search further...
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe I am missing something very trivial as I think some of the "Solr
> > > Users/Use Cases" on the homepage are that kind of large deployments.
> > > How are they implemented?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanky very much!!!
> > >
> > > Jens
> > >
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