ok, we ran some tests and doing the commit for the "slave" as a post commit
event of the "master" reloaded the index and allowed us to achieve a master
slave configuration, without replication
This is useful only if your master and slave are on the same machine, and it
helps reducing the resources needed, as you don't have 2 indexes and you
don't need to copy the data from one to the other.

Thanks  Lance for that proposal.


On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Ofer Fort <ofer...@gmail.com> wrote:

> do i really need a commit? or can i use the 
> *readercycle*<http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolrOperationsTools>script? since i 
> don't need to comit anything, just reopen the reader.
> thanks
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Lance Norskog <goks...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, the Solr commit operations always reloads the index. And it
>> always throws away the Solr caches: queryresult, document, filter
>> query.
>>
>> If you do this, please post your results.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Ofer Fort <ofer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > OK,
>> > so to make sure i understand, even though the "slave" doesn't do any
>> > indexing, i will call commit and it will do nothing to the index itself,
>> but
>> > will reload it?
>> > thanks
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Lance Norskog <goks...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ah! If the program doing the indexing has manual commits, the program
>> >> could send a commit to the slave. If the indexer uses automatic
>> >> commits, there is a trick: you can add a program as a postCommit event
>> >> in solrconfig.xml. This can just be a shell script or a curl command
>> >> that sends a commit to the slave Solr.
>> >>
>> >> Be sure to make all of the wait options false to this command; you
>> >> don't want the master to block while the slave loads up the new index.
>> >> Or, to control the maximum load on your server, you might actually
>> >> want to make the master wait while the slave loads up
>> >>
>> >> Lance
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Ofer Fort <ofer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > thanks Erick,
>> >> > but my question was regard the configuration Lance suggested, a
>> >> > configuration where i have two servers, set set logical master and
>> slave,
>> >> > not as a true replication. Since both are running on the same
>> machine,
>> >> just
>> >> > have one only doing updates, and the other only queries, but both are
>> >> using
>> >> > the same index files.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ofer
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Erick Erickson <
>> erickerick...@gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The slave polls. See: http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolrReplication
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best
>> >> >> Erick
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Ofer Fort <ofer...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Another question on that configuration, when the "master" commits,
>> how
>> >> >> does
>> >> >> > the "slave" knows that the index has changed? Does it check the
>> index
>> >> and
>> >> >> > finds out that it has a newer version?
>> >> >> > Thanks again for the help,
>> >> >> > Ofer
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ב-19 בנוב 2010, בשעה 05:30, Lance Norskog <goks...@gmail.com>
>> כתב/ה:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If they are on the same server, you do not need to replicate.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If you only do queries, the query server can use the same index
>> >> >> > directory as the master. Works quite well. Both have to have the
>> same
>> >> >> > LockPolicy in solrconfig.xml. For security reasons, I would run
>> the
>> >> >> > query server as a different user who has read-only access to the
>> >> >> > index; that way it cannot touch the index.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Ofer Fort <ofer...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > anybody?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Ofer Fort <ofer...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi, I'm working with Erez,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > we experienced this again, and this time the slave index folder
>> didn't
>> >> >> > contain the index.XXX folder, only one index folder.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > if we shutdown the slave, the CPU on the master was normal, as
>> soon as
>> >> we
>> >> >> > started the slave again, the CPU went up to 100% again.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > thanks for any help
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ofer
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Erez Zarum <e...@icinga.org.il>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We've been seeing this for the second time already.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have a solr (1.4.1) master and a slave. both are located on the
>> same
>> >> >> > machine (16GB RAM, 4GB allocated to the slave and 3GB to the
>> master)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > All our updates are going towards the master, and all the queries
>> are
>> >> >> > towards the slave.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Once in a while the slave gets OutOfMemoryError. This is not the
>> big
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > (i have a about 100M documents)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The problem is that from that moment the CPU of the slave AND the
>> >> master
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> > almost 100%.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If i shutdown the slave, the CPU of the master drops.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If i start the slave again, the CPU is 100% again.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have the replication set on commit and startup.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I see that in the data folder contains three index folders: index,
>> >> >> > index.XXXYYY and  index.XXXYYY.ZZZ
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The only way i was able to get pass it (worked two times already),
>> is
>> >> to
>> >> >> > shutdown the two servers, and to copy all the index of the master
>> to
>> >> the
>> >> >> > slave, and start them again.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > From that moment and on, they continue to work and replicate with
>> a
>> >> very
>> >> >> > reasonable CPU usage.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Our guess is that it failed to replicate due to the OOM and since
>> then
>> >> >> > tries
>> >> >> > to do a full replication again and again?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > but why is the CPU of the master so high?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Lance Norskog
>> >> >> > goks...@gmail.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Lance Norskog
>> >> goks...@gmail.com
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lance Norskog
>> goks...@gmail.com
>>
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