Hi Jason, I've tried some limited testing with the 4.x trunk using fcs, and I must say, I really like the idea of per-segment faceting. I was hoping to see it in 3.x, but I don't see this option in the branch_3x trunk. Is your SOLR-1606 patch referred to in SOLR-1617 the one to use with 3.1? There seems to be a number of Solr issues tied to this - one of them being Lucene-1785. Can the per-segment faceting patch work with Lucene 2.9/branch_3x?
Thanks, Peter On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Jason Rutherglen <jason.rutherg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Peter, > > Are you using per-segment faceting, eg, SOLR-1617? That could help > your situation. > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Peter Sturge <peter.stu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Below are some notes regarding Solr cache tuning that should prove >> useful for anyone who uses Solr with frequent commits (e.g. <5min). >> >> Environment: >> Solr 1.4.1 or branch_3x trunk. >> Note the 4.x trunk has lots of neat new features, so the notes here >> are likely less relevant to the 4.x environment. >> >> Overview: >> Our Solr environment makes extensive use of faceting, we perform >> commits every 30secs, and the indexes tend be on the large-ish side >> (>20million docs). >> Note: For our data, when we commit, we are always adding new data, >> never changing existing data. >> This type of environment can be tricky to tune, as Solr is more geared >> toward fast reads than frequent writes. >> >> Symptoms: >> If anyone has used faceting in searches where you are also performing >> frequent commits, you've likely encountered the dreaded OutOfMemory or >> GC Overhead Exeeded errors. >> In high commit rate environments, this is almost always due to >> multiple 'onDeck' searchers and autowarming - i.e. new searchers don't >> finish autowarming their caches before the next commit() >> comes along and invalidates them. >> Once this starts happening on a regular basis, it is likely your >> Solr's JVM will run out of memory eventually, as the number of >> searchers (and their cache arrays) will keep growing until the JVM >> dies of thirst. >> To check if your Solr environment is suffering from this, turn on INFO >> level logging, and look for: 'PERFORMANCE WARNING: Overlapping >> onDeckSearchers=x'. >> >> In tests, we've only ever seen this problem when using faceting, and >> facet.method=fc. >> >> Some solutions to this are: >> Reduce the commit rate to allow searchers to fully warm before the >> next commit >> Reduce or eliminate the autowarming in caches >> Both of the above >> >> The trouble is, if you're doing NRT commits, you likely have a good >> reason for it, and reducing/elimintating autowarming will very >> significantly impact search performance in high commit rate >> environments. >> >> Solution: >> Here are some setup steps we've used that allow lots of faceting (we >> typically search with at least 20-35 different facet fields, and date >> faceting/sorting) on large indexes, and still keep decent search >> performance: >> >> 1. Firstly, you should consider using the enum method for facet >> searches (facet.method=enum) unless you've got A LOT of memory on your >> machine. In our tests, this method uses a lot less memory and >> autowarms more quickly than fc. (Note, I've not tried the new >> segement-based 'fcs' option, as I can't find support for it in >> branch_3x - looks nice for 4.x though) >> Admittedly, for our data, enum is not quite as fast for searching as >> fc, but short of purchsing a Thaiwanese RAM factory, it's a worthwhile >> tradeoff. >> If you do have access to LOTS of memory, AND you can guarantee that >> the index won't grow beyond the memory capacity (i.e. you have some >> sort of deletion policy in place), fc can be a lot faster than enum >> when searching with lots of facets across many terms. >> >> 2. Secondly, we've found that LRUCache is faster at autowarming than >> FastLRUCache - in our tests, about 20% faster. Maybe this is just our >> environment - your mileage may vary. >> >> So, our filterCache section in solrconfig.xml looks like this: >> <filterCache >> class="solr.LRUCache" >> size="3600" >> initialSize="1400" >> autowarmCount="3600"/> >> >> For a 28GB index, running in a quad-core x64 VMWare instance, 30 >> warmed facet fields, Solr is running at ~4GB. Stats filterCache size >> shows usually in the region of ~2400. >> >> 3. It's also a good idea to have some sort of >> firstSearcher/newSearcher event listener queries to allow new data to >> populate the caches. >> Of course, what you put in these is dependent on the facets you need/use. >> We've found a good combination is a firstSearcher with as many facets >> in the search as your environment can handle, then a subset of the >> most common facets for the newSearcher. >> >> 4. We also set: >> <useColdSearcher>true</useColdSearcher> >> just in case. >> >> 5. Another key area for search performance with high commits is to use >> 2 Solr instances - one for the high commit rate indexing, and one for >> searching. >> The read-only searching instance can be a remote replica, or a local >> read-only instance that reads the same core as the indexing instance >> (for the latter, you'll need something that periodically refreshes - >> i.e. runs commit()). >> This way, you can tune the indexing instance for writing performance >> and the searching instance as above for max read performance. >> >> Using the setup above, we get fantastic searching speed for small >> facet sets (well under 1sec), and really good searching for large >> facet sets (a couple of secs depending on index size, number of >> facets, unique terms etc. etc.), >> even when searching against largeish indexes (>20million docs). >> We have yet to see any OOM or GC errors using the techniques above, >> even in low memory conditions. >> >> I hope there are people that find this useful. I know I've spent a lot >> of time looking for stuff like this, so hopefullly, this will save >> someone some time. >> >> >> Peter >> >
