Hi Chris, A cool idea, and I like that on Google too.
But while that's great for techies, not for other demographics. The restriction on "no checkbox or 'start new search'" was because those were considered too complicated / distracting / old-school for the target users, so punctuation in the search box would cause smoke to billow out of ears I imagine. ;-) -- Mark Bennett / New Idea Engineering, Inc. / mbenn...@ideaeng.com Direct: 408-733-0387 / Main: 866-IDEA-ENG / Cell: 408-829-6513 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Chris Biow <chris.b...@marklogic.com>wrote: > > > One option is that taken by MarkMail, which is to explicitly reflect the > facet selection with googly field syntax in the text box (and the URL): > > > > > http://markmail.org/search/?q=text+date%3A200703-200812+list%3Aorg.apache.lucene.solr-user > > > > The user can now change the text query in the search box (which happens to > be the word “text”) to something else, with or without adjusting the faceted > selections on Date and List. > > > > *From:* search_...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:search_...@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Mark Bennett > *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:57 PM > *To:* SearchDev.org Mailing List; solr-user@lucene.apache.org > *Subject:* [search_dev] Opinions on Facet+Fulltext behavior? > > > > > > Most sites allow you to search for some text, and then click on Facets (or > Tags or Taxonomy branches) to drill down into your search. > > Most sites also show the search box in these search results, with the text > previously entered, so that you can edit it and resubmit. Perhaps you want > to add a word or change the spelling of a search term, etc. > > But what should happen to your previously selected Facets (or Tags, etc) ? > > Before you answer.... > 1: It seems like even "the big guys" don't agree. Some large web sites > clear all previous tags when text is resubmitted, other sites keep these > other selections in place to filter the revised search. So it doesn't seem > like there's universal agreement. > 2: Let's assume that I do NOT want to put a "start new search" button or > checkbox in the search form. The goal is to find the most reasonable > DEFAULT behavior, and possibly not display those options. > > Examples: behavior A vs. B > > Both start the same: > 0: Assume a real-estate site. > 1: I type in "furnished apartment", and get 2,000 matches. > 2: Then I notice the "City" facet and click "Sunnyvale". Now I have just > 50 furnished apartments, in Sunnyvale > 3: Then I edit my search text to add the word "garage", so the now the text > box is "furnished apartment garage", and submit the search. > > Scenario A: > The engine brings back furnished apartments with a garage, in Sunnyvale, > and I get only 10 results. > > Scenario B: > The engine brings back furnished apartments with a garage all over the Bay > Area, and I get 800 matches. > To limit the search to Sunnyvale, I must again click the City facet and > select it. > > There are strengths and weaknesses to both scenarios, but I don't wanna > bias anybody's answer. 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