And in the case of both stored=true and docValues=true,  Solr 8.x shall be
choosing the optimal approach by itself?

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:15 AM Wei <weiwan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Erick. As indexed is not necessary,  and docValues is more
> efficient than stored fields for function queries, so  we shall go with the
> following:
>
>   3) indexed=false,  stored=false,  docValues=true.
>
> Is my understanding correct?
>
> Best,
> Wei
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 5:24 AM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You don’t need to index the field for function queries, see:
>> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/docvalues.html.
>>
>> Function queries, as opposed to sorting, faceting and grouping are
>> evaluated at search time where the
>> search process is already parked on the document anyway, so answering the
>> question “for doc X, what
>> is the value of field Y” to compute the score. DocValues are still more
>> efficient I think, although I
>> haven’t measured explicitly...
>>
>> For sorting, faceting and grouping, it’s a much different story. Take
>> sorting. You have to ask
>> “for field Y, what’s the value in docX and docZ?”. Say you’re parked on
>> docX. Doc Z is long gone
>> and getting the value for field Y much more expensive.
>>
>> Also, docValues will not increase memory requirements _unless used_.
>> Otherwise they’ll
>> just sit there on disk. They will certainly increase disk space whether
>> used or not.
>>
>> And _not_ using docValues when you facet, group or sort will also
>> _certainly_ increase
>> your heap requirements since the docValues structure must be built on the
>> heap rather
>> than be in MMapDirectory space.
>>
>> Best,
>> Erick
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:32 AM, uyilmaz <uyil...@vivaldi.net.INVALID>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm by no means expert on this so if anyone sees a mistake please
>> correct me.
>> >
>> > I think you need to index this field, since boost functions are added
>> to the query as optional clauses (
>> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/the-dismax-query-parser.html#TheDisMaxQueryParser-Thebf_BoostFunctions_Parameter).
>> It's like boosting a regular field by putting ^2 next to it in a query.
>> Storing or enabling docValues will unnecesarily consume space/memory.
>> >
>> > On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 16:10:50 -0800
>> > Wei <weiwan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I have a couple of primitive single value numeric type fields,  their
>> >> values are used in boosting functions, but not used in sort/facet. or
>> in
>> >> returned response.   Should I use docValues for them in the schema?  I
>> can
>> >> think of the following options:
>> >>
>> >> 1)   indexed=true,  stored=true, docValues=false
>> >> 2)   indexed=true, stored=false, docValues=true
>> >> 3)   indexed=false,  stored=false,  docValues=true
>> >>
>> >> What would be the performance implications for these options?
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Wei
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > uyilmaz <uyil...@vivaldi.net>
>>
>>

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