That’s a good place to start. The idea was to make sure titles that started with a date would not always be at the forefront and the actual title of the doc would be sorted.
> On Jul 15, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, it’s always a question “how much is enough/too much”. > > That looks reasonable for alphatitle, but what about title? Your original > question was that the sorting changes depending on which field you > sort on. If your title field uses something that tokenizes or doesn’t > include the same analysis chain (particularly the lowercasing > and patternreplace) then I’d expect the order to change. > > Best, > Erick > >> On Jul 15, 2020, at 4:49 PM, David Hastings <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> thanks, ill check the admin, didnt want to send a big clock of text but: >> >> >> - >> - >> >> Tokenizer: >> org.apache.lucene.analysis.core.KeywordTokenizerFactoryclass: >> solr.KeywordTokenizerFactoryluceneMatchVersion: 7.1.0 >> - >> >> Token Filters: >> org.apache.lucene.analysis.core.LowerCaseFilterFactoryclass: >> solr.LowerCaseFilterFactoryluceneMatchVersion: 7.1.0 >> org.apache.lucene.analysis.miscellaneous.TrimFilterFactoryclass: >> solr.TrimFilterFactoryluceneMatchVersion: 7.1.0 >> org.apache.lucene.analysis.pattern.PatternReplaceFilterFactorypattern: >> ([^a-z])replace: allclass: solr.PatternReplaceFilterFactoryreplacement >> luceneMatchVersion: 7.1.0 >> - >> >> Query Analyzer: >> >> <http://192.168.1.33:7300/solr/#/mega/analysis?analysis.fieldname=alphatitle> >> org.apache.solr.analysis.TokenizerChain >> - >> >> Tokenizer: >> org.apache.lucene.analysis.core.KeywordTokenizerFactoryclass: >> solr.KeywordTokenizerFactoryluceneMatchVersion: 7.1.0 >> - >> >> Token Filters: >> org.apache.lucene.analysis.core.LowerCaseFilterFactoryclass: >> solr.LowerCaseFilterFactoryluceneMatchVersion: 7.1.0 >> org.apache.lucene.analysis.miscellaneous.TrimFilterFactoryclass: >> solr.TrimFilterFactoryluceneMatchVersion: 7.1.0 >> org.apache.lucene.analysis.pattern.PatternReplaceFilterFactorypattern: >> ([^a-z])replace: allclass: solr.PatternReplaceFilterFactoryreplacement >> luceneMatchVersion: 7.1.0 >> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:47 PM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I’d look two places: >>> >>> 1> try the admin/analysis page from the admin UI. In particular, look at >>> what tokens actually get in the index. >>> >>> 2> again, the admin UI will let you choose the field (alphatitle and >>> title) and see what the actual indexed tokens are. >>> >>> Both have the issue that I don’t know what tokenizer you are using. For >>> sorting it better be something >>> like KeywordTokenizer. Anything that breaks up the input into separate >>> tokens will produce surprises. >>> >>> And unless you have lowercaseFilter in front of your patternreplace, >>> you’re removing uppercase characters. >>> >>> Best, >>> Erick >>> >>>> On Jul 15, 2020, at 3:06 PM, David Hastings < >>> hastings.recurs...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> howdy, >>>> i have a field that sorts fine all other content, and i cant seem to >>> debug >>>> why it wont sort for me on this one chunk of it. >>>> "sort":"alphatitle asc", "debugQuery":"on", "_":"1594733127740"}}, >>> "response >>>> ":{"numFound":3,"start":0,"docs":[ { "title":"Money orders", { >>>> "title":"Finance, >>>> consolidation and rescheduling of debts", { "title":"Rights in former >>>> German Islands in Pacific", }, >>>> >>>> its using a copyfield from "title" to "alphatitle" that replaces all >>>> punctuation >>>> pattern: ([^a-z])replace: allclass: solr.PatternReplaceFilterFactory >>>> >>>> and if i use just title it flips: >>>> >>>> "title":"Finance, consolidation and rescheduling of debts"}, { >>> "title":"Rights >>>> in former German Islands in Pacific"}, { "title":"Money orders"}] >>>> >>>> and im banging my head trying to figure out what it is about this >>>> content in particular that is not sorting the way I would expect. >>>> don't suppose someone would be able to lead me to a good place to look? >>> >>> >
