I'm wrong: I saw the punctuation being left in for "m_*" and thought
that the WordDelimiterFilter wasn't working.

So as Todd pointed out, underscores are dropped during indexing and
searching.  The limitation you are running into is that things like
prefix and wildcard queries are not analyzed (so the _ won't be
dropped).  You could set up another field for use with wildcard
queries, or you could create separate query and index analyzers for
textTight and set the index analyzer to use a WordDelimiterFilter that
also indexes the original token.

-Yonik

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Stephen Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's strange then.  The schema hasn't changed in well over a month, solr's
> been restarted several times since then to reload synonyms and the whole
> thing was reindexed just this past week to add in new chinese translations
> (the fields were already there but left blank).
>
>
>
>
>
> I attached the full schema if that helps.
> --
> Steve
>
> On Oct 28, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Yonik Seeley wrote:
>
>> These query parsing results don't match with the config you've posted.
>> Double-check the type of the "name" field and that you have restarted
>> Solr since changing the schema.xml
>>
>> -Yonik
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Stephen Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.  I've been looking at the debug page... and I
>>> really
>>> don't see any clues there (maybe I don't know how to read it).
>>>
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>> <response>
>>>
>>> <lst name="responseHeader">
>>> <int name="status">0</int>
>>> <int name="QTime">1</int>
>>> <lst name="params">
>>> <str name="wt">standard</str>
>>> <str name="rows">10</str>
>>>
>>> <str name="start">0</str>
>>> <str name="explainOther"/>
>>> <str name="hl.fl"/>
>>> <str name="indent">on</str>
>>> <str name="q">name:(stm 0810 m_*)</str>
>>> <str name="fl">*,score</str>
>>> <str name="qt">standard</str>
>>>
>>> <str name="debugQuery">on</str>
>>> <str name="version">2.2</str>
>>> </lst>
>>> </lst>
>>> <result name="response" numFound="0" start="0" maxScore="0.0"/>
>>> <lst name="debug">
>>> <str name="rawquerystring">name:(stm 0810 m_*)</str>
>>> <str name="querystring">name:(stm 0810 m_*)</str>
>>>
>>> <str name="parsedquery">+name:stm +name:0810 +name:m_*</str>
>>> <str name="parsedquery_toString">+name:stm +name:0810 +name:m_*</str>
>>> <lst name="explain"/>
>>> </lst>
>>> </response>
>>>
>>> I mean, as far as I can tell, that seems right.  I think I'm missing
>>> something here.
>>>
>>> The wiki page is awesome though, thank you.  The catenateAll option does
>>> seem to do what I think it did... but should I perhaps just remove any
>>> kind
>>> of filter or analyzer on this field?  It's really not a big deal if
>>> someone
>>> has to get the dashes and underscores exactly right - it's a worse
>>> problem
>>> if they do get them right, but it still doesn't work (usually they copy
>>> and
>>> paste these from an e-mail or something).  Just in general, it's never
>>> really critical for someone to search by parts of the filename - except
>>> for
>>> searching with wildcard (that is, stm0810m_* and the like), and it would
>>> be
>>> a lot easier if they didn't have to put spaces where letters change to
>>> numbers & vice versa.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your input.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Feak, Todd wrote:
>>>
>>>> You may want to take a very close look at what the WordDelimiterFilter
>>>> is doing. I believe the underscore is dropped entirely during indexing
>>>> AND searching as it's not alphanumeric.
>>>>
>>>> Wiki doco here
>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/solr/AnalyzersTokenizersTokenFilters?highlight=(t
>>>> okenizer)#head-1c9b83870ca7890cd73b193cefed83c283339089
>>>>
>>>> The admin analysis page and query debug will help a lot to see what's
>>>> going on.
>>>>
>>>> -Todd
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Stephen Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:32 PM
>>>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Question about textTight
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> So I've been using the textTight field to hold filenames, and I've run
>>>> into a weird problem.  Basically, people want to search by part of a
>>>> filename (say, the filename is stm0810m_ws_001ftws and they want to
>>>> find everything starting with stm0810m_ (stm0810m_*).  I'm hoping
>>>> someone might have done this before (I bet someone has).
>>>>
>>>> Lots of things work - you can search for stm0810m_ws_001ftws and get a
>>>> result, or (stm 0810 m*), or various other combinations.  What does
>>>> not work, is searching for (stm0810m_*) or (stm 0810 m_*) or anything
>>>> like that - a problem, because often they don't want things with ma_
>>>> or mx_, but just m_.  It's almost like underscores just break
>>>> everything, escaping them does nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the field definition (it should be what came with my solr):
>>>>
>>>>  <fieldType name="textTight" class="solr.TextField"
>>>> positionIncrementGap="100" >
>>>>    <analyzer>
>>>>      <tokenizer class="solr.WhitespaceTokenizerFactory"/>
>>>>      <filter class="solr.SynonymFilterFactory"
>>>> synonyms="synonyms.txt" ignoreCase="true" expand="false"/>
>>>>      <filter class="solr.StopFilterFactory" ignoreCase="true"
>>>> words="stopwords.txt"/>
>>>>      <filter class="solr.WordDelimiterFilterFactory"
>>>> generateWordParts="0" generateNumberParts="0" catenateWords="1"
>>>> catenateNumbers="1" catenateAll="0"/>
>>>>      <filter class="solr.LowerCaseFilterFactory"/>
>>>>      <filter class="solr.EnglishPorterFilterFactory"
>>>> protected="protwords.txt"/>
>>>>      <filter class="solr.RemoveDuplicatesTokenFilterFactory"/>
>>>>    </analyzer>
>>>>  </fieldType>
>>>>
>>>> and usage:
>>>>
>>>>  <field name="name" type="textTight"
>>>>        indexed="true" stored="true" omitNorms="true"
>>>>        />
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, I thought textTight would be good because it's the one best
>>>> suited for SKU's, but I guess I'm wrong.  What should I be using for
>>>> this?  Would changing any of these "generateWordParts" or
>>>> "catenateAll" options help?  I can't seem to find any documentation so
>>>> I'm really not sure what it would do, but reindexing this whole thing
>>>> will take quite some time so I'd rather know what will actually work
>>>> before I just start changing things.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for any insight!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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