Hi David,
I ran the *:* query 10 times against all 30 servers and the results (below)
were similar across all of them. I agree working against a single server is
easier troubleshooting, but I do not know where to start.

Server shard replica, Matches, Time, Pass
16 1 n2 2989421 78800 1
20 1 n1 2989559 63246 1
23 1 n8 2989619 55141 1
28 1 n6 2989619 65536 1
17 1 n4 2989818 56694 1
26 2 n10 2990088 63485 1
21 2 n18 2990145 68077 1
11 2 n16 2990145 62271 1
13 2 n12 2990242 68564 1
27 2 n14 2990242 63739 1
10 3 n26 2988056 69117 1
25 3 n24 2988056 73750 1
12 3 n28 2988096 61948 1
6 3 n20 2988123 62174 1
19 3 n22 2988123 65826 1
1 4 n30 2985457 60404 1
29 4 n34 2985457 68498 1
30 4 n38 2985604 72034 1
9 4 n36 2902757 65943 1
15 4 n32 2985948 67208 1
7 5 n48 2992278 63098 1
5 5 n42 2992363 69503 1
8 5 n44 2992363 66818 1
4 5 n40 2992397 66784 1
14 5 n46 2883495 58759 1
3 6 n56 2878221 52265 1
22 6 n58 2878221 53768 1
24 6 n52 2878326 62174 1
2 6 n50 2878326 53143 1
18 6 n54 2878326 59044 1

Results from 10 passes
p-solr-8-16.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard1_replica_n2/ 69697.8
4599.8171896
Query time milliseconds [78800, 65549, 68045, 72151, 62774, 69168, 66459,
74336, 69028, 70668]
p-solr-8-20.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard1_replica_n1/ 58310.5
4531.23621224
Query time milliseconds [63246, 59626, 61001, 59366, 53028, 58693, 58832,
64633, 54659, 50021]
p-solr-8-23.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard1_replica_n8/ 57778.5
4659.23933348
Query time milliseconds [55141, 55194, 59100, 62614, 65425, 59261, 58961,
59259, 53799, 49031]
p-solr-8-28.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard1_replica_n6/ 64944.1
3382.61379705
Query time milliseconds [65536, 67825, 69829, 60059, 63616, 67588, 68443,
60853, 62666, 63026]
p-solr-8-17.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard1_replica_n4/ 58018.9
4821.9028851
Query time milliseconds [56694, 58900, 55404, 51590, 66034, 51256, 57109,
57515, 63530, 62157]
p-solr-8-26.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard2_replica_n10/ 59366.6
5036.84751936
Query time milliseconds [63485, 53315, 64845, 62077, 54313, 52607, 65389,
55977, 63486, 58172]
p-solr-8-21.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard2_replica_n18/ 61844.1
4623.13444537
Query time milliseconds [68077, 61117, 64284, 65393, 60580, 57495, 58068,
67454, 62370, 53603]
p-solr-8-11.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard2_replica_n16/ 61179.1
4224.86040401
Query time milliseconds [62271, 66059, 67076, 55706, 60905, 58617, 56561,
66308, 57100, 61188]
p-solr-8-13.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard2_replica_n12/ 69578.3
3986.83530998
Query time milliseconds [68564, 67411, 71644, 75938, 73772, 69780, 67438,
72479, 66368, 62389]
p-solr-8-27.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard2_replica_n14/ 59808.2
4896.04649579
Query time milliseconds [63739, 59873, 65775, 50280, 63009, 60955, 55516,
64130, 60016, 54789]
p-solr-8-10.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard3_replica_n26/ 66038.1
3363.29340743
Query time milliseconds [69117, 63766, 66189, 72059, 68751, 67644, 65027,
60859, 63306, 63663]
p-solr-8-25.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard3_replica_n24/ 60566.8
6390.11408001
Query time milliseconds [73750, 58849, 59947, 58810, 55752, 51790, 54871,
60592, 66853, 64454]
p-solr-8-12.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard3_replica_n28/ 63456.6
4591.56887252
Query time milliseconds [61948, 61372, 60570, 59961, 66818, 62124, 66880,
72592, 56477, 65824]
p-solr-8-6.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard3_replica_n20/ 60869.6
2619.82752613
Query time milliseconds [62174, 59369, 62098, 66974, 59552, 58757, 59728,
59413, 62414, 58217]
p-solr-8-19.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard3_replica_n22/ 57122.0
5111.33222469
Query time milliseconds [65826, 51309, 52595, 50432, 59987, 61371, 62022,
57667, 55639, 54372]
p-solr-8-1.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard4_replica_n30/ 61678.3
4091.35454478
Query time milliseconds [60404, 55604, 62858, 67807, 64320, 63962, 66846,
58085, 58951, 57946]
p-solr-8-29.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard4_replica_n34/ 64042.9
3646.86466403
Query time milliseconds [68498, 60725, 69115, 61942, 61398, 61874, 61255,
68909, 66059, 60654]
p-solr-8-30.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard4_replica_n38/ 63116.5
4609.50824685
Query time milliseconds [72034, 66459, 56206, 56873, 64180, 60061, 63122,
63786, 63754, 64690]
p-solr-8-9.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard4_replica_n36/ 63432.7
4300.8959803
Query time milliseconds [65943, 69316, 55002, 68917, 63472, 58904, 63211,
64688, 62819, 62055]
p-solr-8-15.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard4_replica_n32/ 61906.5
2902.66395843
Query time milliseconds [67208, 65850, 57653, 60862, 59523, 59620, 62713,
61529, 61265, 62842]
p-solr-8-7.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard5_replica_n48/ 59892.7
3490.10076423
Query time milliseconds [63098, 60924, 61086, 63765, 56105, 53150, 56886,
63446, 59949, 60518]
p-solr-8-5.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard5_replica_n42/ 62159.0
5601.61476719
Query time milliseconds [69503, 56827, 55902, 61201, 56940, 65581, 71914,
63370, 63051, 57301]
p-solr-8-8.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard5_replica_n44/ 63823.7
3858.87292267
Query time milliseconds [66818, 67892, 58788, 69172, 64827, 63549, 63268,
59215, 58640, 66068]
p-solr-8-4.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard5_replica_n40/ 58128.5
4130.89318429
Query time milliseconds [66784, 56183, 61574, 55183, 57776, 57367, 60974,
52964, 53819, 58661]
p-solr-8-14.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard5_replica_n46/ 61351.6
4037.90460511
Query time milliseconds [58759, 62324, 57665, 67046, 56590, 59296, 59116,
68687, 63815, 60218]
p-solr-8-3.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard6_replica_n56/ 56639.2
4509.2680559
Query time milliseconds [52265, 49244, 51974, 60207, 57325, 58683, 63489,
54787, 61009, 57409]
p-solr-8-22.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard6_replica_n58/ 57532.8
2690.59624949
Query time milliseconds [53768, 57966, 57145, 53659, 60496, 56692, 59881,
56240, 61887, 57594]
p-solr-8-24.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard6_replica_n52/ 65245.2
3561.3285536
Query time milliseconds [62174, 63386, 59160, 68495, 70150, 64167, 70341,
66024, 64306, 64249]
p-solr-8-2.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard6_replica_n50/ 58632.8
3571.57904077
Query time milliseconds [53143, 56298, 58081, 62260, 61433, 61427, 63434,
59773, 56407, 54072]
p-solr-8-18.obscured.com:8983/solr/content_shard6_replica_n54/ 62589.2
4958.34174341
Query time milliseconds [59044, 64196, 68406, 63014, 61170, 59517, 63885,
72458, 57918, 56284]

Thank you,
Russ

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On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:50 PM David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I suggest first working with a single machine to see if it responds
> substantially slower with the new version.  Just find one of yours and
> issue it a query that will resolve locally (distrib=false param).  Your
> current collection level queries are internally issuing such queries, and
> so with a little bit of sleuthing, looking at logs, you can find a shard
> level query like this.  If it's quick then there's some distributed aspect
> to investigate.  But you'll probably see the slowness here, and the problem
> is better scoped and easier to diagnose.  At this point look at timings
> with debug=timing to see information on each of the components.  That may
> give you a strong clue.  If it's in the QueryComponent which actually
> executes the underlying search then you have some further digging to do.
> Use a profiler like JVisualVM.
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>

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