Hi Toke and Shawn,
Any thoughts on what I sent?
Thanks in advance,
Russ

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On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:55 PM Russell Bahr <r...@manzama.com> wrote:

> Hi Toke,
> Please see below.  We reindexed the solr8 cluster to make sure it was up
> to date with content.
>
> * What is your Xmx for the Solrs? -
> solr8
>
> SOLR_JAVA_MEM="-Xms11235m -Xmx11235m" - 70% of OS Memory
>
>
> solr4
>
> export CATALINA_OPTS="-Xms11235m -Xmx11235m" - - 70% of OS Memory
>
>
> (If you use most of the physical memory for Java, there might be too
> little left for OS-caching)
>
> * Do you have a large number of stored or docValued fields?
> solr8
> not sure if this would be considered a large amount or not.  Posted schema
> in dropbox
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hslknixd3azj7mi/AABnCXex_HInCvRz3kuKLwNna?dl=0
> solr4
> posted schema in dropbox
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hslknixd3azj7mi/AABnCXex_HInCvRz3kuKLwNna?dl=0
>
> (Solr 8 returns docValued fields per default while Solr 4 does not)
>
> * How large is a response? One simple way to check is
> curl '
>
> http://solr.obscured.com:8990/solr/content/select?q=*%3A*&wt=json&indent=true
> '
> | wc -c
>
> solr8
>
>   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time
> Current
>
>                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left
> Speed
>
> 100 18830  100 18830    0     0    245      0  0:01:16  0:01:16 --:--:--
> 5822
>
>    18830
>
> solr4
>
>   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time
> Current
>
>                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left
> Speed
>
> 100 13149    0 13149    0     0    807      0 --:--:--  0:00:16 --:--:--
> 3273
>
>    13149
>
>
>
> (Solr 4 and 8 compress stored content differently and a very large
> result set requires more CPU power to uncompress in Solr 8 (but less
> IO))
>
> * Do you have any response related defaults in your solrconfig.xml,
> such as faceting or grouping?
>
> solr8
> posted config
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hslknixd3azj7mi/AABnCXex_HInCvRz3kuKLwNna?dl=0
>
> solr4
> posted config
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hslknixd3azj7mi/AABnCXex_HInCvRz3kuKLwNna?dl=0
>
> (You might be doing heavy aggregation even if you don't explicitly ask
> for it)
>
>
> *Manzama*a MODERN GOVERNANCE company
>
> Russell Bahr
> Lead Infrastructure Engineer
>
> USA & CAN Office: +1 (541) 306 3271
> USA & CAN Support: +1 (541) 706 9393
> UK Office & Support: +44 (0)203 282 1633
> AUS Office & Support: +61 (0) 2 8417 2339
>
> 543 NW York Drive, Suite 100, Bend, OR 97703
>
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>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 1:43 AM Toke Eskildsen <t...@kb.dk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2019-09-03 at 12:35 -0700, Russell Bahr wrote:
>> > Also, if it helps, the content on each server is between around 6.2Gb
>> > and 7.8Gb.
>>
>> We're still missing something here. The trivial query
>>
>>
>> http://solr.obscured.com:8990/solr/content/select?q=*%3A*&wt=json&indent=true
>> on such a modest index size & document count should not take seconds to
>> complete. So we must widen our questioning:
>>
>> * What is your Xmx for the Solrs?
>> (If you use most of the physical memory for Java, there might be too
>> little left for OS-caching)
>>
>> * Do you have a large number of stored or docValued fields?
>> (Solr 8 returns docValued fields per default while Solr 4 does not)
>>
>> * How large is a response? One simple way to check is
>> curl '
>>
>> http://solr.obscured.com:8990/solr/content/select?q=*%3A*&wt=json&indent=true'
>>
>> | wc -c
>> (Solr 4 and 8 compress stored content differently and a very large
>> result set requires more CPU power to uncompress in Solr 8 (but less
>> IO))
>>
>> * Do you have any response related defaults in your solrconfig.xml,
>> such as faceting or grouping?
>> (You might be doing heavy aggregation even if you don't explicitly ask
>> for it)
>>
>>
>> - Toke Eskildsen, Royal Danish Library
>>
>>
>>

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