There are around 35.000 files in the index. When I started Indexing 5 weeks
ago with only 2000 documents I did not this issue. I have seen it the first
time with around 10.000 documents.

Before that I have been using the same instance on a Linux machine with up
to 17.000 documents and I haven't seen this issue at all. The original plan
has always been to use Solr on Linux, but I'm still waiting for the new
server.

Uwe

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Michael McCandless <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Hmm OK that seems like a possible explanation then.  Still it's spooky that
> it's taking 5 minutes.  How many files are in the index at the time you call
> commit?
>
> I wonder if you were to simply pause for say 30 seconds, before issuing the
> commit, whether you'd then see the commit go faster?  On Windows at least
> such a silly trick does seem to improve performance, I think because it
> allows the OS to move the bytes from its write cache onto stable storage "on
> its own schedule" whereas when we commit we are demanding the OS move the
> bytes on our [arbitrary] schedule.
>
> I really wish OSs would add an API that would just block & return once the
> file has made it to stable storage (letting the OS sync on its own optimal
> schedule), rather than demanding the file be fsync'd immediately.
>
> I really haven't explored the performance of fsync on different
> filesystems.  I think I've read that ReiserFS may have issues, though it
> could have been addressed by now.  I *believe* ext3 is OK (at least, it
> didn't show the strange "sleep to get better performance" issue above, in my
> limited testing).
>
> Mike
>
>
> Uwe Klosa wrote:
>
>  Thanks Mike
>>
>> The use of fsync() might be the answer to my problem, because I have
>> installed Solr for lack of other possibilities in a zone on Solaris with
>> ZFS
>> which slows down when many fsync() calls are made. This will be fixed in a
>> upcoming release of Solaris, but I will move as soon as possible the Solr
>> instances to another server with a different file system. Would the use of
>> a
>> different file system than ext3 boost the performance?
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Michael McCandless <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Yonik Seeley wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Uwe Klosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I have a big problem with one of my solr instances. A commit can take
>>>>> up
>>>>> to
>>>>> 5 minutes. This time does not depend on the number of documents which
>>>>> are
>>>>> updated. The difference for 1 or 100 updated documents is only a few
>>>>> seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Since Solr's commit logic really hasn't changed, I wonder if this
>>>> could be lucene related somehow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Lucene's commit logic has changed: we now fsync() each file in the index
>>> to
>>> ensure all bytes are on stable storage, before returning.
>>>
>>> But I can't imagine that taking 5 minutes, unless there are somehow a
>>> great
>>> many files added to the index?
>>>
>>> Uwe, what filesystem are you using?
>>>
>>> Yonik, when Solr commits what does it actually do?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>

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