Erick Erickson - I don't have much time to chase this down. Do you think
this a blocker for 7.6? It seems pretty serious.

Jeremy - This would be a good JIRA to create - we can move the conversation
there to try to get the right people involved.

Kevin Risden


On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:57 AM Jeremy Smith <jas2...@cornell.edu> wrote:

> Hi Susheel,
>
>      Yes, it appears that under certain conditions, if a follower is down
> when the leader gets an update, the follower will not receive that update
> when it comes back (or maybe it receives the update and it's then
> overwritten by its own transaction logs, I'm not sure).  Furthermore, if
> that follower then becomes the leader, it will replicate its own out of
> date value back to the former leader, even though the version number is
> lower.
>
>
>    -Jeremy
>
> ________________________________
> From: Susheel Kumar <susheel2...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:57:00 PM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: SolrCloud Replication Failure
>
> Are we saying it has to do something with stop and restarting replica's
> otherwise I haven't seen/heard any issues with document updates and
> forwarding to replica's...
>
> Thanks,
> Susheel
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 12:58 PM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > So  this seems like it absolutely needs a JIRA....
> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:39 AM
> Kevin Risden
> <kris...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I pushed 3 branches that modifies test.sh to test 5.5, 6.6, and 7.5
> > locally
> > > without docker. I still see the same behavior where the latest updates
> > > aren't on the replicas. I still don't know what is happening but it
> > happens
> > > without Docker :(
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/risdenk/test-solr-start-stop-replica-consistency/branches
> > >
> > > Kevin Risden
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:41 AM Kevin Risden <kris...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Erick - Yea thats a fair point. Would be interesting to see if this
> > fails
> > > > without Docker.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Risden
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:06 AM Erick Erickson <
> > erickerick...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Kevin:
> > > >>
> > > >> You're also using Docker, right? Docker is not "officially"
> supported
> > > >> although there's some movement in that direction and if this is only
> > > >> reproducible in Docker than it's a clue where to look....
> > > >>
> > > >> Erick
> > > >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 7:24 PM
> > > >> Kevin Risden
> > > >> <kris...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I haven't dug into why this is happening but it definitely
> > reproduces. I
> > > >> > removed the local requirements (port mapping and such) from the
> > gist you
> > > >> > posted (very helpful). I confirmed this fails locally and on
> Travis
> > CI.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> https://github.com/risdenk/test-solr-start-stop-replica-consistency
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I don't even see the first update getting applied from num 10 ->
> 20.
> > > >> After
> > > >> > the first update there is no more change.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Kevin Risden
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:26 PM Jeremy Smith <jas2...@cornell.edu
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Thanks Erick, this is 7.5.0.
> > > >> > > ________________________________
> > > >> > > From: Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:20:18 PM
> > > >> > > To: solr-user
> > > >> > > Subject: Re: SolrCloud Replication Failure
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > What version of solr? This code was pretty much rewriten in 7.3
> > IIRC
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 10:47 Jeremy Smith <jas2...@cornell.edu
> > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Hi all,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >      We are currently running a moderately large instance of
> > > >> standalone
> > > >> > > > solr and are preparing to switch to solr cloud to help us
> scale
> > > >> up.  I
> > > >> > > have
> > > >> > > > been running a number of tests using docker locally and ran
> > into an
> > > >> issue
> > > >> > > > where replication is consistently failing.  I have pared down
> > the
> > > >> test
> > > >> > > case
> > > >> > > > as minimally as I could.  Here's a link for the
> > docker-compose.yml
> > > >> (I put
> > > >> > > > it in a directory called solrcloud_simple) and a script to run
> > the
> > > >> test:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > https://gist.github.com/smithje/2056209fc4a6fb3bcc8b44d0b7df3489
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Here's the basic idea behind the test:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 1) Create a cluster with 2 nodes (solr-1 and solr-2), 1 shard,
> > and 2
> > > >> > > > replicas (each node gets a replica).  Just use the default
> > schema,
> > > >> > > although
> > > >> > > > I've also tried our schema and got the same result.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 2) Shut down solr-2
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 3) Add 100 simple docs, just id and a field called num.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 4) Start solr-2 and check that it received the documents.  It
> > did!
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 5) Update a document, commit, and check that solr-2 received
> the
> > > >> update.
> > > >> > > > It did!
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 6) Stop solr-2, update the same document, start solr-2, and
> make
> > > >> sure
> > > >> > > that
> > > >> > > > it received the update.  It did!
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > 7) Repeat step 6 with a new value.  This time solr-2 reverts
> > back
> > > >> to what
> > > >> > > > it had in step 5.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I believe the main issue comes from this in the logs:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > solr-2_1  | 2018-10-31 17:04:26.135 INFO
> > > >> > > > (recoveryExecutor-4-thread-1-processing-n:solr-2:8082_solr
> > > >> > > > x:test_shard1_replica_n2 c:test s:shard1 r:core_node4) [c:test
> > > >> s:shard1
> > > >> > > > r:core_node4 x:test_shard1_replica_n2] o.a.s.u.PeerSync
> > PeerSync:
> > > >> > > > core=test_shard1_replica_n2 url=http://solr-2:8082/solr  Our
> > > >> versions
> > > >> > > are
> > > >> > > > newer. ourHighThreshold=1615861330901729280
> > > >> > > > otherLowThreshold=1615861314086764545
> > ourHighest=1615861330901729280
> > > >> > > > otherHighest=1615861335081353216
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > PeerSync thinks the versions on solr-2 are newer for some
> > reason,
> > > >> so it
> > > >> > > > doesn't try to sync from solr-1.  In the final state, solr-2
> > will
> > > >> always
> > > >> > > > have a lower version for the updated doc than solr-1.  I've
> > tried
> > > >> this
> > > >> > > with
> > > >> > > > different commit strategies, both auto and manual, and it
> > doesn't
> > > >> seem to
> > > >> > > > make any difference.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Is this a bug with solr, an issue with using docker, or am I
> > just
> > > >> > > > expecting too much from solr?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Thanks for any insights you may have,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Jeremy
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >
> >
>

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