Thanks for your detailed advice, the monitor product you are talking about
is good, but our solr system is running on a private network and seems to
be unusable at all, with no single downloadable application for analyzing
specific gc logs.

2018-02-28 16:57 GMT+08:00 Emir Arnautović <emir.arnauto...@sematext.com>:

> Hi,
> I would start with following:
> 1. have dedicated nodes for ZK ensemble - those do not have to be powerful
> nodes (maybe 2-4 cores and 8GB RAM)
> 2. reduce heap size to value below margin where JVM can use compressed
> oops - 31GB should be safe size
> 3. shard collection to all nodes
> 4. increase rollover interval to 2h so you keep shard size/number as it is
> today.
> 5. experiment with slightly larger rollover intervals (e.g. 3h) if query
> latency is still acceptable. That will result in less shards that are
> slightly larger.
>
> In any case monitor your cluster to see how changes affect it. Not sure
> what you currently use for monitoring, but manual scanning of GC logs is
> not fun. You can check out our monitoring tool if you don’t have one or if
> it does not give you enough visibility: https://sematext.com/spm/ <
> https://sematext.com/spm/>
>
> HTH,
> Emir
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>
>
>
> > On 28 Feb 2018, at 02:42, 苗海泉 <mseaspr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, I read under the memory footprint, I set 75% recovery, memory
> > occupancy at about 76%, the other we zookeeper not on a dedicated server,
> > perhaps because of this cause instability.
> >
> > What else do you recommend for me to check?
> >
> > 2018-02-27 22:37 GMT+08:00 Emir Arnautović <emir.arnauto...@sematext.com
> >:
> >
> >> This does not show much: only that your heap is around 75% (24-25GB). I
> >> was thinking that you should compare metrics (heap/GC as well) when
> running
> >> on without issues and when running with issues and see if something can
> be
> >> concluded.
> >> About instability: Do you run ZK on dedicated nodes?
> >>
> >> Emir
> >> --
> >> Monitoring - Log Management - Alerting - Anomaly Detection
> >> Solr & Elasticsearch Consulting Support Training - http://sematext.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 27 Feb 2018, at 14:43, 苗海泉 <mseaspr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thank you, we were 49 shard 49 nodes, but later found that in this
> case,
> >>> often disconnect between solr and zookeepr, zookeeper too many nodes
> >> caused
> >>> solr instability, so reduced to 25 A follow-up performance can not keep
> >> up
> >>> also need to increase back.
> >>>
> >>> Very slow when solr and zookeeper not found any errors, just build the
> >>> index slow, automatic commit inside the log display is slow, but the
> main
> >>> reason may not lie in the commit place.
> >>>
> >>> I am sorry, I do not know how to look at the utilization of java heap,
> >>> through the gc log, gc time is not long, I posted the log:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> {Heap before GC invocations=1144021 (full 72):
> >>> garbage-first heap   total 33554432K, used 26982419K
> [0x00007f1478000000,
> >>> 0x00007f1478808000, 0x00007f1c78000000)
> >>> region size 8192K, 204 young (1671168K), 26 survivors (212992K)
> >>> Metaspace       used 41184K, capacity 41752K, committed 67072K,
> reserved
> >>> 67584K
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:01.793+0800: 4668016.044: [GC pause (G1 Evacuation
> >> Pause)
> >>> (young)
> >>> Desired survivor size 109051904 bytes, new threshold 1 (max 15)
> >>> - age   1:  113878760 bytes,  113878760 total
> >>> - age   2:   21264744 bytes,  135143504 total
> >>> - age   3:   17020096 bytes,  152163600 total
> >>> - age   4:   26870864 bytes,  179034464 total
> >>> , 0.0579794 secs]
> >>>  [Parallel Time: 46.9 ms, GC Workers: 18]
> >>>     [GC Worker Start (ms): Min: 4668016046.1, Avg: 4668016046.3, Max:
> >>> 4668016046.4, Diff: 0.3]
> >>>     [Ext Root Scanning (ms): Min: 2.4, Avg: 6.5, Max: 46.3, Diff: 43.9,
> >>> Sum: 116.9]
> >>>     [Update RS (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 3.4, Max: 6.0, Diff: 6.0, Sum:
> 62.0]
> >>>        [Processed Buffers: Min: 0, Avg: 6.3, Max: 16, Diff: 16, Sum:
> >> 113]
> >>>     [Scan RS (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 0.0, Max: 0.1, Diff: 0.1, Sum: 0.5]
> >>>     [Code Root Scanning (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 0.0, Max: 0.0, Diff: 0.0,
> >>> Sum: 0.0]
> >>>     [Object Copy (ms): Min: 0.1, Avg: 23.8, Max: 25.5, Diff: 25.5, Sum:
> >>> 428.1]
> >>>     [Termination (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 12.7, Max: 13.5, Diff: 13.5, Sum:
> >>> 228.9]
> >>>        [Termination Attempts: Min: 1, Avg: 1.0, Max: 1, Diff: 0, Sum:
> >> 18]
> >>>     [GC Worker Other (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 0.1, Max: 0.4, Diff: 0.4,
> Sum:
> >>> 1.2]
> >>>     [GC Worker Total (ms): Min: 46.4, Avg: 46.6, Max: 46.7, Diff: 0.3,
> >>> Sum: 838.0]
> >>>     [GC Worker End (ms): Min: 4668016092.8, Avg: 4668016092.8, Max:
> >>> 4668016092.8, Diff: 0.0]
> >>>  [Code Root Fixup: 0.2 ms]
> >>>  [Code Root Purge: 0.0 ms]
> >>>  [Clear CT: 0.3 ms]
> >>>  [Other: 10.7 ms]
> >>>     [Choose CSet: 0.0 ms]
> >>>     [Ref Proc: 5.9 ms]
> >>>     [Ref Enq: 0.2 ms]
> >>>     [Redirty Cards: 0.2 ms]
> >>>     [Humongous Register: 2.2 ms]
> >>>     [Humongous Reclaim: 0.4 ms]
> >>>     [Free CSet: 0.4 ms]
> >>>  [Eden: 1424.0M(1424.0M)->0.0B(1552.0M) Survivors: 208.0M->80.0M Heap:
> >>> 25.7G(32.0G)->24.3G(32.0G)]
> >>> Heap after GC invocations=1144022 (full 72):
> >>> garbage-first heap   total 33554432K, used 25489656K
> [0x00007f1478000000,
> >>> 0x00007f1478808000, 0x00007f1c78000000)
> >>> region size 8192K, 10 young (81920K), 10 survivors (81920K)
> >>> Metaspace       used 41184K, capacity 41752K, committed 67072K,
> reserved
> >>> 67584K
> >>> }
> >>> [Times: user=0.84 sys=0.01, real=0.05 secs]
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:01.851+0800: 4668016.102: Total time for which
> >> application
> >>> threads were stopped: 0.0661383 seconds, Stopping threads took:
> 0.0004141
> >>> seconds
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:02.092+0800: 4668016.343: [GC concurrent-mark-end,
> >>> 2.5757061 secs]
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:02.100+0800: 4668016.351: [GC remark
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:02.100+0800: 4668016.351: [Finalize Marking, 0.0016508
> >>> secs] 2018-02-27T21:43:02.102+0800: 4668016.352: [GC ref-proc,
> 0.0277818
> >>> secs] 2018-02-27T21:43:02.129+0800: 4668016.380: [Unloading, 0.0118102
> >>> secs], 0.0704296 secs]
> >>> [Times: user=0.85 sys=0.04, real=0.07 secs]
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:02.171+0800: 4668016.422: Total time for which
> >> application
> >>> threads were stopped: 0.0785762 seconds, Stopping threads took:
> 0.0006159
> >>> seconds
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:02.178+0800: 4668016.429: [GC cleanup 24G->24G(32G),
> >>> 0.0391915 secs]
> >>> [Times: user=0.64 sys=0.00, real=0.04 secs]
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:02.218+0800: 4668016.469: Total time for which
> >> application
> >>> threads were stopped: 0.0470020 seconds, Stopping threads took:
> 0.0001684
> >>> seconds
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:02.540+0800: 4668016.791: Total time for which
> >> application
> >>> threads were stopped: 0.0074829 seconds, Stopping threads took:
> 0.0004834
> >>> seconds
> >>> {Heap before GC invocations=1144023 (full 72):
> >>> garbage-first heap   total 33554432K, used 27078904K
> [0x00007f1478000000,
> >>> 0x00007f1478808000, 0x00007f1c78000000)
> >>> region size 8192K, 204 young (1671168K), 10 survivors (81920K)
> >>> Metaspace       used 41184K, capacity 41752K, committed 67072K,
> reserved
> >>> 67584K
> >>> 2018-02-27T21:43:04.076+0800: 4668018.326: [GC pause (G1 Evacuation
> >> Pause)
> >>> (young)
> >>> Desired survivor size 109051904 bytes, new threshold 15 (max 15)
> >>> - age   1:   47719032 bytes,   47719032 total
> >>> , 0.0554183 secs]
> >>>  [Parallel Time: 48.0 ms, GC Workers: 18]
> >>>     [GC Worker Start (ms): Min: 4668018329.0, Avg: 4668018329.1, Max:
> >>> 4668018329.3, Diff: 0.3]
> >>>     [Ext Root Scanning (ms): Min: 2.9, Avg: 5.7, Max: 47.4, Diff: 44.6,
> >>> Sum: 103.0]
> >>>     [Update RS (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 14.3, Max: 16.2, Diff: 16.2, Sum:
> >>> 257.6]
> >>>        [Processed Buffers: Min: 0, Avg: 17.4, Max: 22, Diff: 22, Sum:
> >> 314]
> >>>     [Scan RS (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 0.0, Max: 0.1, Diff: 0.1, Sum: 0.5]
> >>>     [Code Root Scanning (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 0.0, Max: 0.0, Diff: 0.0,
> >>> Sum: 0.0]
> >>>     [Object Copy (ms): Min: 0.1, Avg: 10.9, Max: 11.9, Diff: 11.8, Sum:
> >>> 196.9]
> >>>     [Termination (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 16.6, Max: 17.6, Diff: 17.6, Sum:
> >>> 299.1]
> >>>        [Termination Attempts: Min: 1, Avg: 1.0, Max: 1, Diff: 0, Sum:
> >> 18]
> >>>     [GC Worker Other (ms): Min: 0.0, Avg: 0.0, Max: 0.1, Diff: 0.0,
> Sum:
> >>> 0.5]
> >>>     [GC Worker Total (ms): Min: 47.5, Avg: 47.6, Max: 47.8, Diff: 0.3,
> >>> Sum: 857.6]
> >>>     [GC Worker End (ms): Min: 4668018376.7, Avg: 4668018376.8, Max:
> >>> 4668018376.8, Diff: 0.0]
> >>>  [Code Root Fixup: 0.2 ms]
> >>>  [Code Root Purge: 0.0 ms]
> >>>  [Clear CT: 0.2 ms]
> >>>  [Other: 7.1 ms]
> >>>     [Choose CSet: 0.0 ms]
> >>>     [Ref Proc: 2.3 ms]
> >>>     [Ref Enq: 0.2 ms]
> >>>     [Redirty Cards: 0.2 ms]
> >>>     [Humongous Register: 2.2 ms]
> >>>     [Humongous Reclaim: 0.4 ms]
> >>>     [Free CSet: 0.4 ms]
> >>>  [Eden: 1552.0M(1552.0M)->0.0B(1488.0M) Survivors: 80.0M->144.0M Heap:
> >>> 25.8G(32.0G)->24.4G(32.0G)]
> >>> Heap after GC invocations=1144024 (full 72):
> >>> garbage-first heap   total 33554432K, used 25550050K
> [0x00007f1478000000,
> >>> 0x00007f1478808000, 0x00007f1c78000000)
> >>> region size 8192K, 18 young (147456K), 18 survivors (147456K)
> >>> Metaspace       used 41184K, capacity 41752K, committed 67072K,
> reserved
> >>> 67584K
> >>> }
> >>> [Times: user=0.82 sys=0.00, real=0.05 secs]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2018-02-27 20:58 GMT+08:00 Emir Arnautović <
> emir.arnauto...@sematext.com
> >>> :
> >>>
> >>>> Ah, so there are ~560 shards per node and not all nodes are indexing
> at
> >>>> the same time. Why is that? You can have better throughput if indexing
> >> on
> >>>> all nodes. If happy with shard size, you can create new collection
> with
> >> 49
> >>>> shards every 2h and have everything the same and index on all nodes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Back to main question: what is the heap utilisation? When you restart
> >> node
> >>>> what is heap utilisation? Do you see any errors in your logs? Do you
> see
> >>>> any errors in ZK logs?
> >>>>
> >>>> Emir
> >>>> --
> >>>> Monitoring - Log Management - Alerting - Anomaly Detection
> >>>> Solr & Elasticsearch Consulting Support Training -
> http://sematext.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 27 Feb 2018, at 13:22, 苗海泉 <mseaspr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks  for you reply again.
> >>>>> I just said that you may have some misunderstanding, we have 49 solr
> >>>> nodes,
> >>>>> each collection has 25 shards, each shard has only one replica of the
> >>>> data,
> >>>>> there is no copy, and I reduce the part of the cache. If you need the
> >>>>> metric data, I can check Come out to tell you, in addition we are
> only
> >>>>> additional system, there will not be any change action.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2018-02-27 20:05 GMT+08:00 Emir Arnautović <
> >> emir.arnauto...@sematext.com
> >>>>> :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>> It is hard to tell without looking more into your metrics. It seems
> to
> >>>> me
> >>>>>> that you are reaching limits of your cluster. I would doublecheck if
> >>>> memory
> >>>>>> is the issue. If I got it right, you have ~1120 shards per node. It
> >>>> takes
> >>>>>> some heap just to keep them open. If you have some caches enabled
> and
> >>>> if it
> >>>>>> is append only system, old shards will keep caches until reloaded.
> >>>>>> Probably will not make much diff, but with 25x2=50 shards and 49
> >> nodes,
> >>>>>> one node will need to handle double indexing load.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Emir
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Monitoring - Log Management - Alerting - Anomaly Detection
> >>>>>> Solr & Elasticsearch Consulting Support Training -
> >> http://sematext.com/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 27 Feb 2018, at 12:54, 苗海泉 <mseaspr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In addition, we found that the rate was normal when the number of
> >>>>>>> collections was kept below 936 and the speed was slower and slower
> at
> >>>>>> 984.
> >>>>>>> Therefore, we could only temporarily delete the older collection,
> but
> >>>> now
> >>>>>>> we need more Online collection, there has been no good way to
> confuse
> >>>> us
> >>>>>>> for a long time, very much hope to give a solution to the problem
> of
> >>>>>> ideas,
> >>>>>>> greatly appreciated
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2018-02-27 19:46 GMT+08:00 苗海泉 <mseaspr...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thank you for reply.
> >>>>>>>> One collection has 25 shard one replica, one solr node has about
> 5T
> >> on
> >>>>>>>> desk.
> >>>>>>>> GC is checked ,and modify as follow :
> >>>>>>>> SOLR_JAVA_MEM="-Xms32768m -Xmx32768m "
> >>>>>>>> GC_TUNE=" \
> >>>>>>>> -XX:+UseG1GC \
> >>>>>>>> -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem \
> >>>>>>>> -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled \
> >>>>>>>> -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8m \
> >>>>>>>> -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=250 \
> >>>>>>>> -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=75 \
> >>>>>>>> -XX:+UseLargePages \
> >>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts \
> >>>>>>>> -XX:+UseLargePages"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2018-02-27 19:27 GMT+08:00 Emir Arnautović <
> >>>>>> emir.arnauto...@sematext.com>:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>> To get more complete picture, can you tell us how many
> >>>> shards/replicas
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>> you have per collection? Also what is index size on disk? Did you
> >>>>>> check GC?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> BTW, using 32GB heap prevents you from using compressed oops,
> >>>> resulting
> >>>>>>>>> in less memory available than 31GB.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>> Emir
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Monitoring - Log Management - Alerting - Anomaly Detection
> >>>>>>>>> Solr & Elasticsearch Consulting Support Training -
> >>>>>> http://sematext.com/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 27 Feb 2018, at 11:36, 苗海泉 <mseaspr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I encountered a more serious problem in the process of using
> solr.
> >>>> We
> >>>>>>>>> use
> >>>>>>>>>> the solr version is 6.0, our daily amount of data is about 500
> >>>> billion
> >>>>>>>>>> documents, create a collection every hour, the online collection
> >> of
> >>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand, 49 solr nodes. If the collection in less than
> >> 800,
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> speed is still very fast, if the collection of the number of
> 1100
> >> or
> >>>>>> so,
> >>>>>>>>>> the construction of solr index will drop sharply, one of the
> >>>> original
> >>>>>>>>>> program speed of about 2-3 million TPS, Dropped to only a few
> >>>> hundred
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>> even tens of TPS, who have encountered a similar situation,
> there
> >> is
> >>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>>>> good idea to find this issue. By the way, solr a node memory we
> >>>>>> assigned
> >>>>>>>>>> 32G,We checked the memory, cpu, disk IO, network IO occupancy is
> >> no
> >>>>>>>>>> problem, belong to the normal state. Which friend encountered a
> >>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>>>>> problem, please inform the solution, thank you very much.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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