Hi Shawn,

I think the position is the issue, but how do I fix it? Is something wrong with 
my index analyzer or just my query is not right? I need to do phrase query, 
order is important here. 

I tried “KKS KSA”~1 in the query, it worked. However, if I do "KKS KSA SAR”~1, 
it didn’t work, I had to do "KKS KSA SAR”~2. 

Is phrase slop essential here. I used to with Solr 3.5, no phrase slop is 
needed.

Thanks,

Chuming



On Nov 16, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Shawn Heisey <apa...@elyograg.org> wrote:

> On 11/16/2017 7:38 AM, Chuming Chen wrote:
>> Referencing the first image in the message, showing the analysis tab.  This 
>> reply is plain text, so that image cannot be included.
> 
> In your query, you have two terms as a phrase - kks and ksa.  These match 
> terms in the index, but the reason that the *query* doesn't match is that the 
> relative *positions* don't match.  In your query, the terms are at position 1 
> and 2, but in the *index*, all the terms are at position 1.  Because the 
> query has quotes, it is a phrase query, which means that positions matter.  
> With the query terms at position 1 and position 2, the indexed terms would 
> have to be at say position 5 and position 6 -- next to each other and in that 
> specific order -- in order to have a match.
> 
> If you sent "KKS KSA"~1 instead, the query would have a phrase slop of 1, 
> which would mean that the relative positions can differ by one and still 
> match.  Or if you were to remove the quotes so that it were not a phrase 
> query, it might match.  All of this of course depends on what your default 
> field is.
> 
> Also, note that the query analysis page does not know that quotes are special 
> -- the query parser is not used.  Running the analysis with the quotes 
> happens to work out correctly in this particular case because the standard 
> tokenizer in this field type removes punctuation, but on a less aggressive 
> analysis chain, the quotes that are counted as special by the query parser 
> (and therefore are not even sent to analysis) might actually be included in 
> the terms on the analysis page.
> 
> Thanks,
> Shawn
> 

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