Also I wouldn't really recommend mongodb at all, it should only to be used as a fast front end to an acid compliant relational db same with memcahed for example. If you're going to stick to open source, as I do, you should use the correct tool for the job.
> On Aug 5, 2017, at 7:32 AM, GW <thegeofo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Insults for Walter only.. sorry.. > >> On 5 August 2017 at 06:28, GW <thegeofo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> For The Guardian, Solr is the new database | Lucidworks >> <https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiR1rn6_b_VAhVB7IMKHWGKBj4QFgguMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Flucidworks.com%2F2010%2F04%2F29%2Ffor-the-guardian-solr-is-the-new-database%2F&usg=AFQjCNE6CwwFRMvNhgzvEZu-Sryu_vtL8A> >> https://lucidworks.com/2010/04/29/for-the-guardian-solr- >> is-the-new-database/ >> Apr 29, 2010 - For The Guardian, *Solr* is the new *database*. I blogged >> a few days ago about how open search source is disrupting the relationship >> between ... >> >> You are arrogant and probably lame as a programmer. >> >> All offense intended >> >>> On 5 August 2017 at 06:23, GW <thegeofo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Watch their videos.... >>> >>> On 4 August 2017 at 23:26, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> MarkLogic can do many-to-many. I worked there six years ago. They use >>>> search engine index structure with generational updates, including segment >>>> level caches. With locking. Pretty good stuff. >>>> >>>> A many to many relationship is an intersection across posting lists, >>>> with transactions. Straightforward, but not easy to do it fast. >>>> >>>> The “Inside MarkLogic Server” paper does a good job of explaining the >>>> guts. >>>> >>>> Now, back to our regularly scheduled Solr presentations. >>>> >>>> wunder >>>> Walter Underwood >>>> wun...@wunderwood.org >>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 8:13 PM, David Hastings <dhasti...@wshein.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Also, id love to see an example of a many to many relationship in a >>>> nosql db as you described, since that's a rdbms concept. If it exists in a >>>> nosql environment I would like to learn how... >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Dave <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Uhm. Dude are you drinking? >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Lucidworks would never say that. >>>>>> 2. Maria is not a json +MySQL. Maria is a fork of the last open >>>> source version of MySQL before oracle bought them >>>>>> 3.walter is 100% correct. Solr is search. The only complex data >>>> structure it has is an array. Something like mongo can do arrays hashes >>>> arrays of hashes etc, it's actually json based. But it can't search well as >>>> a search engine can. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no one tool. Use each for their own abilities. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 10:35 PM, GW <thegeofo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The people @ Lucidworks would beg to disagree but I know exactly >>>> what you >>>>>>> are saying Walter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A simple flat file like a cardx is fine and dandy as a Solrcloud >>>> noSQL DB. >>>>>>> I like to express it as knowing when to fish and when to cut bait. >>>> As soon >>>>>>> as you are in the one - many or many - many world a real DB is a >>>> whole lot >>>>>>> more sensible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Augment your one-many|many-many NoSQL DB with a Solrcloud and you've >>>> got a >>>>>>> rocket. Maria (MySQL with JSON) has had text search for a long time >>>> but It >>>>>>> just does not compare to Solr. Put the two together and you've got >>>> some >>>>>>> serious magic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No offense intended, There's nothing wrong with being 97.5% correct. >>>> I wish >>>>>>> I could be 97.5% correct all the time. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4 August 2017 at 18:41, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Solr is NOT a database. If you need a database, don’t choose Solr. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need both a database and search, choose MarkLogic. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wunder >>>>>>>> Walter Underwood >>>>>>>> wun...@wunderwood.org >>>>>>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Francesco Viscomi <fvisc...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> why i have to choose solr if mongoDb is easier to learn and to use? >>>>>>>>> Both are NoSql database, is there a good reason to chose solr and >>>> not >>>>>>>>> mongoDb? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks really much >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Ing. Viscomi Francesco >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>