Also I wouldn't really recommend mongodb at all, it should only to be used as a 
fast front end to an acid compliant relational db same with  memcahed for 
example. If you're going to stick to open source, as I do, you should use the 
correct tool for the job. 

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 7:32 AM, GW <thegeofo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Insults for Walter only.. sorry..
> 
>> On 5 August 2017 at 06:28, GW <thegeofo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> For The Guardian, Solr is the new database | Lucidworks
>> <https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiR1rn6_b_VAhVB7IMKHWGKBj4QFgguMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Flucidworks.com%2F2010%2F04%2F29%2Ffor-the-guardian-solr-is-the-new-database%2F&usg=AFQjCNE6CwwFRMvNhgzvEZu-Sryu_vtL8A>
>> https://lucidworks.com/2010/04/29/for-the-guardian-solr-
>> is-the-new-database/
>> Apr 29, 2010 - For The Guardian, *Solr* is the new *database*. I blogged
>> a few days ago about how open search source is disrupting the relationship
>> between ...
>> 
>> You are arrogant and probably lame as a programmer.
>> 
>> All offense intended
>> 
>>> On 5 August 2017 at 06:23, GW <thegeofo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Watch their videos....
>>> 
>>> On 4 August 2017 at 23:26, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> MarkLogic can do many-to-many. I worked there six years ago. They use
>>>> search engine index structure with generational updates, including segment
>>>> level caches. With locking. Pretty good stuff.
>>>> 
>>>> A many to many relationship is an intersection across posting lists,
>>>> with transactions. Straightforward, but not easy to do it fast.
>>>> 
>>>> The “Inside MarkLogic Server” paper does a good job of explaining the
>>>> guts.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, back to our regularly scheduled Solr presentations.
>>>> 
>>>> wunder
>>>> Walter Underwood
>>>> wun...@wunderwood.org
>>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 8:13 PM, David Hastings <dhasti...@wshein.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, id love to see an example of a many to many relationship in a
>>>> nosql db as you described, since that's a rdbms concept. If it exists in a
>>>> nosql environment I would like to learn how...
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Dave <hastings.recurs...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Uhm. Dude are you drinking?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Lucidworks would never say that.
>>>>>> 2. Maria is not a json +MySQL. Maria is a fork of the last open
>>>> source version of MySQL before oracle bought them
>>>>>> 3.walter is 100% correct. Solr is search. The only complex data
>>>> structure it has is an array. Something like mongo can do arrays hashes
>>>> arrays of hashes etc, it's actually json based. But it can't search well as
>>>> a search engine can.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is no one tool. Use each for their own abilities.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 10:35 PM, GW <thegeofo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The people @ Lucidworks would beg to disagree but I know exactly
>>>> what you
>>>>>>> are saying Walter.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A simple flat file like a cardx is fine and dandy as a Solrcloud
>>>> noSQL DB.
>>>>>>> I like to express it as knowing when to fish and when to cut bait.
>>>> As soon
>>>>>>> as you are in the one - many or many - many world a real DB is a
>>>> whole lot
>>>>>>> more sensible.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Augment your one-many|many-many NoSQL DB with a Solrcloud and you've
>>>> got a
>>>>>>> rocket. Maria (MySQL with JSON) has had text search for a long time
>>>> but It
>>>>>>> just does not compare to Solr. Put the two together and you've got
>>>> some
>>>>>>> serious magic.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No offense intended, There's nothing wrong with being 97.5% correct.
>>>> I wish
>>>>>>> I could be 97.5% correct all the time. :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 4 August 2017 at 18:41, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Solr is NOT a database. If you need a database, don’t choose Solr.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you need both a database and search, choose MarkLogic.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wunder
>>>>>>>> Walter Underwood
>>>>>>>> wun...@wunderwood.org
>>>>>>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/  (my blog)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Francesco Viscomi <fvisc...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> why i have to choose solr if mongoDb is easier to learn and to use?
>>>>>>>>> Both are NoSql database, is there a good reason to chose solr and
>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> mongoDb?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> thanks really much
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ing. Viscomi Francesco
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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