I am pleased to report that we are in Production on Solr 5.5.3 with comparable performance to Solr 4.8.1 through leveraging facet.method=uif as well as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-9176. Thanks to everyone who worked on these!
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Solr User <solr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Below is some further testing. This was done in an environment that had > no other queries or updates during testing. We ran through several > scenarios so I pasted this with HTML formatting below so you may view this > as a table. Sorry if you have to pull this out into a different file for > viewing, but I did not want the formatting to be messed up. The times are > average times in milliseconds. Same test methodology as above except there > was a 5 minute warmup and a 15 minute test. > > Note that both the segment and deletions were recorded from only 1 out of > 2 of the shards so we cannot try to extrapolate a function between them and > the outcome. In other words, just view them as "non-optimized" versus > "optimized" and "has deletions" versus "no deletions". The only exceptions > are the 0 deletes were true for both shards and the 1 segment and 8 segment > cases were true for both shards. A few of the tests were repeated as well. > > The only conclusion that I could draw is that the number of segments and > the number of deletes appear to greatly influence the response times, at > least more than any difference in Solr version. There also appears to be > some external contributor to variance....maybe network, etc. > > Thoughts? > > > <table><tbody><tr><td>Date</td><td>9/29/2016</td><td>9/29/ > 2016</td><td>9/29/2016</td><td>9/30/2016</td><td>9/30/ > 2016</td><td>9/30/2016</td><td>9/30/2016</td><td>9/30/ > 2016</td><td>9/30/2016</td><td>9/30/2016</td><td>9/30/ > 2016</td><td>9/30/2016</td><td>9/30/2016</td><td>10/3/ > 2016</td><td>10/3/2016</td><td>10/3/2016</td><td>10/3/2016</td></tr><tr><td>Solr > Version</td><td>5.5.2</td><td>5.5.2</td><td>4.8.1</td><td>4. > 8.1</td><td>4.8.1</td><td>5.5.2</td><td>5.5.2</td><td>5.5.2< > /td><td>5.5.2</td><td>5.5.2</td><td>5.5.2</td><td>5.5.2</ > td><td>5.5.2</td><td>4.8.1</td><td>4.8.1</td><td>4.8.1</ > td><td>4.8.1</td></tr><tr><td>Deleted Docs</td><td>57873</td><td> > 57873</td><td>176958</td><td>593694</td><td>593694</td><td> > 57873</td><td>57873</td><td>57873</td><td>57873</td><td>0< > /td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0< > /td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Segment Count</td><td>34</td><td>34</ > td><td>18</td><td>27</td><td>27</td><td>34</td><td>34</td>< > td>34</td><td>34</td><td>8</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</ > td><td>8</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td> > facet.method=uif</td><td>YES</td><td>YES</td><td>N/A</td>< > td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>YES</td><td>YES</td><td>NO</ > td><td>NO</td><td>NO</td><td>YES</td><td>YES</td><td>NO</ > td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td><td>N/A</td></tr><tr><td>Scenario > #1</td><td>198</td><td>210</td><td>145</td><td>186</td>< > td>190</td><td>208</td><td>209</td><td>210</td><td>206</ > td><td>109</td><td>142</td><td>73</td><td>70</td><td>160</ > td><td>109</td><td>83</td><td>85</td></tr><tr><td>Scenario > #2</td><td>92</td><td>88</td><td>59</td><td>62</td><td>58</ > td><td>72</td><td>70</td><td>77</td><td>74</td><td>68</td>< > td>73</td><td>63</td><td>61</td><td>66</td><td>54</td><td> > 52</td><td>51</td></tr></tbody></table> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Solr User <solr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I plan to re-test this in a separate environment that I have more control >> over and will share the results when I can. >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Solr User <solr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Certainly. And I would of course welcome anyone else to test this for >>> themselves especially with facet.method=uif to see if that has indeed >>> bridged the gap between Solr 4 and Solr 5. I would be very happy if my >>> testing is invalid due to variance, problem in process, etc. One thing I >>> was pondering is if I should force merge the index to a certain amount of >>> segments because indexing yields a random number of segments and >>> deletions. The only thing stopping me short of doing that were >>> observations of longer Solr 4 times even with more deletions and similar >>> number of segments. >>> >>> We use Soasta as our testing tool. Before testing, load is sent for >>> 10-15 minutes to make sure any Solr caches have stabilized. Then the test >>> is run for 30 minutes of steady volume with Scenario #1 tested at 15 >>> req/sec and Scenario #2 tested at 100 req/sec. Each request is different >>> with input being pulled from data files. The requests are repeatable test >>> to test. >>> >>> The numbers posted above are average response times as reported by >>> Soasta. However, respective time differences are supported by Splunk which >>> indexes the Solr logs and Dynatrace which is instrumented on one of the >>> JVM's. >>> >>> The versions are deployed to the same machines thereby overlaying the >>> previous installation. Going Solr 4 to Solr 5, full indexing is run with >>> the same input data. Being in SolrCloud mode, the full indexing comprises >>> of indexing all documents and then deleting any that were not touched. >>> Going Solr 5 back to Solr 4, the snapshot is restored since Solr 4 will not >>> load with a Solr 5 index. Testing Solr 4 after reverting yields the same >>> results as the previous Solr 4 test. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:02 AM, Toke Eskildsen <t...@statsbiblioteket.dk> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 15:08 -0500, Solr User wrote: >>>> > Further testing indicates that any performance difference is not due >>>> > to deletes. Both Solr 4.8.1 and Solr 5.5.2 benefited from removing >>>> > deletes. >>>> >>>> Sanity check: Could you describe how you test? >>>> >>>> * How many queries do you issue for each test? >>>> * Are each query a new one or do you re-use the same query? >>>> * Do you discard the first X calls? >>>> * Are the numbers averages, medians or something third? >>>> * What do you do about disk cache? >>>> * Are both Solr's on the same machine? >>>> * Do they use the same index? >>>> * Do you alternate between testing 4.8.1 and 5.5.2 first? >>>> >>>> - Toke Eskildsen, State and University Library, Denmark >>>> >>> >>> >> >