On 05/10/2016 02:19, Walter Underwood wrote:
I’m trying to bring up 6.2.1 after experience with 1.2 through 5.5, and it is a 
mess.
I’ve done solid good practice (Zookeeper ensemble, chroot, data on EBS volume),
but I’m stuck with a completely non-instructive stack trace.

We run a separate data directory and SOLR_HOME, which is poorly supported by
the startup script. I gave up and used a symlink to make it sorta happy.

Still, I’m stuck with this.

org.apache.solr.common.SolrException: Error processing the request. 
CoreContainer is either not initialized or shutting down.
        at 
org.apache.solr.servlet.SolrDispatchFilter.doFilter(SolrDispatchFilter.java:217)
        at 
org.apache.solr.servlet.SolrDispatchFilter.doFilter(SolrDispatchFilter.java:208)

I’ve tried loading configs with bin/solr and with zkcli.sh. I get useless error 
messages
from each of them.

I worked on a commercial search product for ten years, and this wouldn’t pass 
basic QA.
We need to do some work, people.

Last week I had to upgrade a proof-of-concept demo that ran on Solr 4 to 6.2.1, using the Sunburnt client. I thought I'd use the Files example to get started. This wasn't exactly painless: I ended up having to disable Managed Schemas (I couldn't get Solr to use the old schema.xml), mess around with Sunburnt (which assumed a certain URL structure to read schema.xml) and generally chop large chunks out solrconfig.xml until it began to work.

When we see clients with Solr issues the problems often stem from there being *too much* in their configuration - they've started with one of the example configs and added often conflicting settings, there's all kinds of irrelevant stuff hanging around (you probably don't need a Hungarian stemmer unless you're Hungarian), a zillion schema types you'll never need...I'm beginning to wonder if an absolutely minimal Solr example configuration might be a good idea. It's going to have to make assumptions (e.g. it's probably going to assume English content) and it won't do anything particularly clever, but I feel it might be a better place to start than wondering what on earth all that commented-out XML does, especially the bits that say 'you probably shouldn't use this in production'. You can always copy those bits back in later...

I'll be in Boston next week if anyone wants to chat about this. Maybe I'll have a go at our Lucene Hackday on Tuesday (still some places free!) http://www.meetup.com/New-England-Search-Technologies-NEST-Group/events/233492535/

Cheers

Charlie



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On Oct 4, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Three weeks ago I asked this list whether there was an interest in
running a virtual examples reading group, with "all questions
welcome". The response was sufficient to start planning the first
study group.

The current projected date is start of November. You can register for
it at: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YLNVC27 (it is the same survey
as the first time - no need to do that again if you responded before).
The first run is free.

Regards,
   Alex.

P.s. If you have Solr-using customers (e.g. you are running a Solr
cloud business), feel free to announce this to them and/or run your
own outreach and contact me directly with bulk emails of those
interested.

P.p.s. I am also presenting on Solr examples at the Lucene/Solr
Revolution in about a week. If you have very strong opinions about
Solr examples, feel free to reach out directly and share them via
email or in person. The opinions do not have to be positive, though
having them constructive would be an nice. :-)
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Newsletter and resources for Solr beginners and intermediates:
http://www.solr-start.com/




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