Thanks again Eric - I'm going to be trying the ADDREPLICA again today or
Monday.  I much prefer that to hand-edit hackery...

Thanks also for pointing out that cURL makes it "scriptable"...

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> bq: Shouldn't this: &node=x.x.x.x:9001_solr
> <
> http://x.x.x.x:8984/solr/admin/collections?action=ADDREPLICA&collection=test2&shard=shard1&node=x.x.x.x:9001_solr
> >
>
> Actually be this?  &node=x.x.x.x:9001/solr
> <
> http://x.x.x.x:8984/solr/admin/collections?action=ADDREPLICA&collection=test2&shard=shard1&node=x.x.x.x:9001_solr
> >
>
> (Note the / instead of _ )
>
> Good thing you added the note, 'cause I was having trouble seeing the
> difference.
>
> No. The underscore is correct. The "node" in this case is the name
> registered
> in Zookeeper in the "live nodes" znode, _not_ a URL or whatever...
>
> As to your two methods of moving a shard around. Either one is fine,
> although the first one (copying the directory and "doing the right thing"
> to edit core.properties) is a little dicier in that you're doing hand
> edits.
>
> Personally I prefer the ADDREPLICA solution. In fact I've moved replicas
> around by ADDREPLICA, wait, DELETEREPLICA...
>
> Best,
> Erick
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 3:10 AM, Jaroslaw Rozanski
> <s...@jarekrozanski.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does the `&name=...` actually work for you? When attempting similar with
> > Solr 5.3.1, despite what documentation said, I had to use
> > `node_name=...`.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jarek
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Apr 2016, at 05:48, John Bickerstaff wrote:
> >> Another thought - again probably not it, but just in case...
> >>
> >> Shouldn't this: &node=x.x.x.x:9001_solr
> >> <
> http://x.x.x.x:8984/solr/admin/collections?action=ADDREPLICA&collection=test2&shard=shard1&node=x.x.x.x:9001_solr
> >
> >>
> >> Actually be this?  &node=x.x.x.x:9001/solr
> >> <
> http://x.x.x.x:8984/solr/admin/collections?action=ADDREPLICA&collection=test2&shard=shard1&node=x.x.x.x:9001_solr
> >
> >>
> >> (Note the / instead of _ )
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:45 PM, John Bickerstaff
> >> <j...@johnbickerstaff.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Jay - it's probably too simple, but the error says "not currently
> active"
> >> > which could, of course, mean that although it's up and running, it's
> not
> >> > listening on the port you have in the command line...  Or that the
> port is
> >> > blocked by a firewall or other network problem.
> >> >
> >> > I note that you're using ports different from the default 8983 for
> your
> >> > Solr instances...
> >> >
> >> > You probably checked already, but I thought I'd mention it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:30 PM, John Bickerstaff <
> >> > j...@johnbickerstaff.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks Eric!
> >> >>
> >> >> I'll look into that immediately - yes, I think that cURL would
> qualify as
> >> >> scriptable for my IT lead.
> >> >>
> >> >> In the end, I found I could do it two ways...
> >> >>
> >> >> Either copy the entire solr data directory over to /var/solr/data on
> the
> >> >> new machine, change the directory name and the entries in the
> >> >> core.properties file, then start the already-installed Solr in cloud
> mode -
> >> >> everything came up roses in the cloud section of the UI - the new
> replica
> >> >> was there as part of the collection, properly named and worked fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> Alternatively, I used the command I mentioned earlier and then
> waited as
> >> >> the data was replicated over to the newly-created replica -- again,
> >> >> everything was roses in the Cloud section of the Admin UI...
> >> >>
> >> >> What might I have messed up in this scenario?  I didn't love the
> hackish
> >> >> feeling either, but had been unable to find anything like the
> addreplica -
> >> >> although I did look for a fairly long time - I'm glad to know about
> it now.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Erick Erickson <
> erickerick...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> bq:  the Solr site about how to add a
> >> >>> replica to a Solr cloud.  The Admin UI appears to require that the
> >> >>> directories be created anyway
> >> >>>
> >> >>> No, no, a thousand times NO! You're getting confused,
> >> >>> I think, with the difference between _cores_ and _collections_
> >> >>> (or replicas in a collection).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Do not use the admin UI for _cores_ to create replicas. It's
> possible
> >> >>> if (and only if) you do it exactly correctly. Instead, use the
> >> >>> collections API
> >> >>> ADDREPLICA command here:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/Collections+API#CollectionsAPI-api_addreplica
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Which you could cURL etc., does that qualify as "scripting" in your
> >> >>> situation?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You're right, the Solr instance must be up and running for the
> replica to
> >> >>> be added, but that's not onerous....
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The bin/solr script is a "work in progress", and doesn't have direct
> >> >>> support
> >> >>> for "addreplica", but it could be added.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best,
> >> >>> Erick
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:22 PM, John Bickerstaff
> >> >>> <j...@johnbickerstaff.com> wrote:
> >> >>> > Sure - couldn't agree more.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I couldn't find any good documentation on the Solr site about how
> to
> >> >>> add a
> >> >>> > replica to a Solr cloud.  The Admin UI appears to require that the
> >> >>> > directories be created anyway.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > There is probably a way to do it through the UI, once Solr is
> >> >>> installed on
> >> >>> > a new machine - and IIRC, I did manage that, but my IT guy wanted
> >> >>> > scriptable command lines.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Also, IIRC, the stuff I did on the command line actually showed
> the
> >> >>> API URL
> >> >>> > as part of the output so Jay could try that and see what the
> difference
> >> >>> > is...
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Jay - I'm going offline now, but if you're still stuck tomorrow,
> I'll
> >> >>> try
> >> >>> > to recreate... I have a VM snapshot just before I issued the
> command...
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Keep in mind everything I did was in a Solr Cloud...
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Jeff Wartes <
> jwar...@whitepages.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> I’m all for finding another way to make something work, but I
> feel
> >> >>> like
> >> >>> >> this is the wrong advice.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> There are two options:
> >> >>> >> 1) You are doing something wrong. In which case, you should
> probably
> >> >>> >> invest in figuring out what.
> >> >>> >> 2) Solr is doing something wrong. In which case, you should
> probably
> >> >>> >> invest in figuring out what, and then file a bug so it doesn’t
> happen
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> >> anyone else.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Adding a replica is a pretty basic operation, so whichever
> option is
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> >> case, I feel like you’ll just encounter other problems down the
> road
> >> >>> if you
> >> >>> >> don’t figure out what’s going on.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I’d probably start by creating the single-replica collection,
> and then
> >> >>> >> inspecting the live_nodes list in Zookeeper to confirm that the
> >> >>> (live) node
> >> >>> >> list is actually what you think it is.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On 4/14/16, 4:04 PM, "John Bickerstaff" <
> j...@johnbickerstaff.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> >5.4
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >This problem drove me insane for about a month...
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >I'll send you the doc.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Jay Potharaju <
> >> >>> jspothar...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> >wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> Thanks John, which version of solr are you using?
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:59 PM, John Bickerstaff <
> >> >>> >> >> j...@johnbickerstaff.com>
> >> >>> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> > su - solr -c "/opt/solr/bin/solr create -c statdx -d
> >> >>> /home/john/conf
> >> >>> >> >> > -shards 1 -replicationFactor 2"
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> > However, this won't work by itself.  There is some
> preparation
> >> >>> >> >> > necessary...  I'll send you the doc.
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Jay Potharaju <
> >> >>> jspothar...@gmail.com
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> > > Curious what command did you use?
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:48 PM, John Bickerstaff <
> >> >>> >> >> > > j...@johnbickerstaff.com>
> >> >>> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > I had a hard time getting replicas made via the API,
> once I
> >> >>> had
> >> >>> >> >> created
> >> >>> >> >> > > the
> >> >>> >> >> > > > collection for the first time.... although that may
> have been
> >> >>> >> >> ignorance
> >> >>> >> >> > > on
> >> >>> >> >> > > > my part.
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > I was able to get it done fairly easily on the Linux
> command
> >> >>> line.
> >> >>> >> >> If
> >> >>> >> >> > > > that's an option and you're interested, let me know - I
> have
> >> >>> a
> >> >>> >> rough
> >> >>> >> >> > but
> >> >>> >> >> > > > accurate document. But perhaps others on the list will
> have
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> >> >> > specific
> >> >>> >> >> > > > answer you're looking for.
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Jay Potharaju <
> >> >>> >> >> jspothar...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > Hi,
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > I am using solr 5.5 and testing adding a new replica
> when
> >> >>> a solr
> >> >>> >> >> > > instance
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > comes up. When I run the following command I get an
> error.
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> >> have 1
> >> >>> >> >> > > > replica
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > and trying to add another replica.
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> http://x.x.x.x:8984/solr/admin/collections?action=ADDREPLICA&collection=test2&shard=shard1&node=x.x.x.x:9001_solr
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > Error:
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <str name="Operation addreplica caused
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> exception:">org.apache.solr.common.SolrException:org.apache.solr.common.SolrException:
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > At least one of the node(s) specified are not
> currently
> >> >>> >> active,
> >> >>> >> >> no
> >> >>> >> >> > > > action
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > taken.</str>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <lst name="exception">
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <str name="msg">At least one of the node(s)
> specified
> >> >>> are not
> >> >>> >> >> > > currently
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > active, no action taken.</str>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <int name="rspCode">400</int>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > </lst>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <lst name="error">
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <lst name="metadata">
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <str
> >> >>> >> >> name="error-class">org.apache.solr.common.SolrException</str>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <str
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> name="root-error-class">org.apache.solr.common.SolrException</str>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > </lst>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <str name="msg">At least one of the node(s)
> specified
> >> >>> are not
> >> >>> >> >> > > currently
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > active, no action taken.</str>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > <int name="code">400</int>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > </lst>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > > </response>
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > But when i create a new collection with 2 replicas it
> works
> >> >>> >> fine.
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > As a side note my clusterstate.json is not updating
> >> >>> correctly.
> >> >>> >> Not
> >> >>> >> >> > sure
> >> >>> >> >> > > > if
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > that is causing an issue.
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >  Any suggestions why the Addreplica command is not
> >> >>> working. And
> >> >>> >> is
> >> >>> >> >> it
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > related to the clusterstate.json? If yes, how can i
> fix it?
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > --
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > Thanks
> >> >>> >> >> > > > > Jay
> >> >>> >> >> > > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > >
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> > > --
> >> >>> >> >> > > Thanks
> >> >>> >> >> > > Jay Potharaju
> >> >>> >> >> > >
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> --
> >> >>> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>> >> >> Jay Potharaju
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
>

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