I don’t use boost at index time and query time.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Sullivan [mailto:r...@ricksullivan.net]
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 10:18 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: RE: Explain score is different from score

I'm not. I only have query boosts.

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> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:42:36 +0000
> From: iori...@yahoo.com.INVALID
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Explain score is different from score
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> This could be a bug I think. Do you guys use index time boosts?
>
> Ahmet
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 6:15 PM, Rick Sullivan <r...@ricksullivan.net> 
> wrote:
> Yes it seems to be something similar, but the normalization isn't applied to 
> all retrieved documents, which messes with the document rankings.
>
> Some documents have the exact values from the 'explain' response, while 
> others are normalized.
>
> -Rick
>
>
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>> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:06:19 +0000
>> From: iori...@yahoo.com.INVALID
>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Explain score is different from score
>>
>> Hi Rajesh,
>>
>> I suspect it is due to the queryNorm(q). But it is weird that relative order 
>> is different in your example.
>>
>>
>> "queryNorm(q) is a normalizing factor used to make scores between
>> queries comparable. This factor does not affect document ranking
>> (since all ranked documents are multiplied by the same factor), but
>> rather just attempts to make scores from different queries (or even
>> different indexes) comparable." [1]
>>
>> [1]
>> https://lucene.apache.org/core/5_5_0/core/org/apache/lucene/search/si
>> milarities/TFIDFSimilarity.html
>>
>> Ahmet
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 18, 2016 4:24 PM, Rick Sullivan <r...@ricksullivan.net> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Rajesh,
>>
>> I've been seeing the same problem you have. My debug scores seem to be what 
>> I expect, but the actual scores applied by Solr are sometimes divided by an 
>> integer.
>>
>> I raised the same question in this email distribution about a week ago, but 
>> haven't yet found a solution. There's also a StackOverflow question I 
>> created here:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35921106/how-and-why-do-solr-expla
>> in-values-differ-from-the-solr-score
>>
>> Can you verify whether all of your affected scores are (1/N)*score? I
>> think N seems to be the number of OR elements in the query. For
>> example, your case below has
>>
>> debug_score/score
>> = 1.2517526/0.41725087
>> = 3
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Rick
>>
>>
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>>> From: r...@cebglobal.com
>>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: Explain score is different from score
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:29:14 +0000
>>>
>>> Can someone help?
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: G, Rajesh
>>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 12:56 PM
>>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>>> Subject: Explain score is different from score
>>>
>>> Mismatch in score displayed in debug and score field. Please refer attached 
>>> xml.
>>>
>>> When I search for title_ws:(Microsoft Ofice 365). If the results are 
>>> displayed by explain score order then we would have the expected result 
>>> “Microsoft Office 365” then “Lync - Microsoft Office 365”
>>>
>>> <result name="response" numFound="13617" start="0"
>>> maxScore="1.0952835"> <doc> <str name="title">Lync - Microsoft
>>> Office 365</str> <str name="title_ws">Lync - Microsoft Office
>>> 365</str> <int name="id">1722669</int> <float
>>> name="score">1.0952835</float></doc> Score from explain 1.0952835
>>> <doc> <str name="title">Microsoft Office 365</str> <str
>>> name="title_ws">Microsoft Office 365</str> <int
>>> name="id">2043876</int> <float name="score">0.41725087</float></doc>
>>> Score from explain 1.2517526 </result>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Rajesh

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