On 15 October 2015 at 15:59, Eric Torti <ericzu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Lorenzo,
>
> I don't think this has a direct relation to your problem but it looks
> like you're setting -DzkClientTimeout twice. From what I know about
>

Thanks, I am aware of this double setting, but I also think the jvm is
taking the last argument which is the intended
one.


> setting VM arguments twice, you're
> probably ending up with the last one being enforced.
>
> Just something to be aware of I guess.
>
> I don't think this relates to your problem because the GC pauses are
> not superior to 30s which seems to be the time zookeeper would let a
> node be irresponsive before considering it in recovery.
>

Ok, good to consider. Thanks :)

>
> Best,
>
> Eric Torti
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lorenzo Fundaró
> <lorenzo.fund...@dawandamail.com> wrote:
> > On 14 October 2015 at 20:35, Pushkar Raste <pushkar.ra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> You may want to start solr with following settings to enable logging GC
> >> details. Here are some flags you might want to enable.
> >>
> >> -Xloggc:<path_to_log_dir>/gc.log
> >> -XX:+PrintGCDetails
> >> -XX:+PrintGCDateStamps
> >> -XX:+PrintGCTimeStamps
> >> -XX:+PrintTenuringDistribution
> >> -XX:+PrintGCApplicationStoppedTime
> >> -XX:+PrintHeapAtGC
> >>
> >> Once you have GC logs, look for string "Total time for which application
> >> threads were stopped" to check if you have long pauses (you may get long
> >> pauses even with young generation GC).
> >>
> >
> >
> > Yes, there are several lines indicating that threads are being stopped.
> > There is this one particularly that draw my attention because right
> after a
> > second it happened 2 of my replicas went into
> > recovery mode, including the one who suffered the thread stop.
> >
> > solr_gc.log.1.current:2015-10-15T07:47:03.263+0000: 251173.653: Total
> time
> > for which application threads were stopped: 1.4936161 seconds, Stopping
> > threads took: 0.0000502 seconds
> > (is a second of stopped threads enough to have a node in recovery node ?)
> > When this happened, the leader had a couple of connection resets while
> > trying to communicate with this replica.
> >
> > and this server the highest stop takes 4s.
> >
> > solr_gc.log.1.current:2015-10-14T20:24:01.353+0000: 210191.743: Total
> time
> > for which application threads were stopped: 4.0111066 seconds, Stopping
> > threads took: 0.0000776 seconds
> >
> > These are the jvm flags
> >
> > -XX:NewSize=256m -XX:MaxNewSize=256m
> > /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle/bin/java -server -Xss256k -Xms16g -Xmx16g
> > -XX:NewRatio=3 -XX:SurvivorRatio=4 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
> > -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=8 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC
> > -XX:ConcGCThreads=4 -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+CMSScavengeBeforeRemark
> > -XX:PretenureSizeThreshold=64m -XX:+UseCMSInitiatingOccupancyOnly
> > -XX:CMSInitiatingOccupancyFraction=50
> -XX:CMSMaxAbortablePrecleanTime=6000
> > -XX:+CMSParallelRemarkEnabled -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -verbose:gc
> > -XX:+PrintHeapAtGC -XX:+PrintGCDetails -XX:+PrintGCDateStamps
> > -XX:+PrintGCTimeStamps -XX:+PrintTenuringDistribution
> > -XX:+PrintGCApplicationStoppedTime -Xloggc:/solr_gc.log
> > -DzkClientTimeout=15000   -Duser.timezone=UTC
> > -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -DzkClientTimeout=30000  -XX:NewSize=256m
> > -XX:MaxNewSize=256m
> >
> > All of the options are the default that come with the solr startup
> script,
> > only the ones specified in the first line are being put by us.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -- Pushkar Raste
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Lorenzo Fundaró <
> >> lorenzo.fund...@dawandamail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > <<What do you see if you attach
> >> > &debug=true to the query?>>
> >> >
> >> > "debug": { "rawquerystring": "*:*", "querystring": "*:*",
> "parsedquery":
> >> > "(+MatchAllDocsQuery(*:*))/no_coord", "parsedquery_toString": "+*:*",
> "
> >> > explain": { "Product:47047358": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery,
> >> product
> >> > of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "Product:32211113": "\n1.0 = (MATCH)
> >> > MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n",
> "Product:30852121":
> >> > "\n1.0
> >> > = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "
> >> > Product:35018929": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n
> 1.0
> >> =
> >> > queryNorm\n", "Product:31682082": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery,
> >> > product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "Product:31077677": "\n1.0 = (MATCH)
> >> > MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n",
> "Product:22298365":
> >> > "\n1.0
> >> > = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "
> >> > Product:41094514": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n
> 1.0
> >> =
> >> > queryNorm\n", "Product:13106166": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery,
> >> > product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "Product:19142249": "\n1.0 = (MATCH)
> >> > MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n",
> "Product:38243373":
> >> > "\n1.0
> >> > = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "
> >> > Product:20434065": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n
> 1.0
> >> =
> >> > queryNorm\n", "Product:25194801": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery,
> >> > product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "Product:885482": "\n1.0 = (MATCH)
> >> > MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n",
> "Product:45356790":
> >> > "\n1.0
> >> > = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "
> >> > Product:67719831": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n
> 1.0
> >> =
> >> > queryNorm\n", "Product:12843394": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery,
> >> > product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "Product:38126213": "\n1.0 = (MATCH)
> >> > MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n",
> "Product:38798130":
> >> > "\n1.0
> >> > = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "
> >> > Product:30292169": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n
> 1.0
> >> =
> >> > queryNorm\n", "Product:11535854": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery,
> >> > product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "Product:8443674": "\n1.0 = (MATCH)
> >> > MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n",
> "Product:51012182":
> >> > "\n1.0
> >> > = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "
> >> > Product:75780871": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n
> 1.0
> >> =
> >> > queryNorm\n", "Product:20227881": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery,
> >> > product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "Product:38093629": "\n1.0 = (MATCH)
> >> > MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n",
> "Product:3142218":
> >> > "\n1.0
> >> > = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "
> >> > Product:15295602": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n
> 1.0
> >> =
> >> > queryNorm\n", "Product:3375982": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery,
> >> > product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "Product:38276777": "\n1.0 = (MATCH)
> >> > MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n",
> "Product:10726118":
> >> > "\n1.0
> >> > = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "
> >> > Product:50827742": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n
> 1.0
> >> =
> >> > queryNorm\n", "Product:5771722": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery,
> >> > product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "Product:3245678": "\n1.0 = (MATCH)
> >> > MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n",
> "Product:13702130":
> >> > "\n1.0
> >> > = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n 1.0 = queryNorm\n", "
> >> > Product:25679953": "\n1.0 = (MATCH) MatchAllDocsQuery, product of:\n
> 1.0
> >> =
> >> > queryNorm\n" }, "QParser": "ExtendedDismaxQParser", "altquerystring":
> >> null,
> >> > "boost_queries": null, "parsed_boost_queries": [], "boostfuncs":
> null, "
> >> > filter_queries": [ "{!cost=1 cache=true}type_s:Product AND
> >> > is_valid_b:true",
> >> > "{!cost=50 cache=true}in_languages_t:de", "{!cost=99
> >> > cache=false}(shipping_country_codes_mt: (DE OR EURO OR EUR OR ALL))
> AND
> >> > (cents_ri: [* TO 3000])" ], "parsed_filter_queries": [
> "+type_s:Product
> >> > +is_valid_b:true", "in_languages_t:de", "{!cache=false
> >> > cost=99}+(shipping_country_codes_mt:de shipping_country_codes_mt:euro
> >> > shipping_country_codes_mt:eur shipping_country_codes_mt:all)
> +cents_ri:[*
> >> > TO 3000]" ], "timing": { "time": 18, "prepare": { "time": 0, "query":
> { "
> >> > time": 0 }, "facet": { "time": 0 }, "mlt": { "time": 0 },
> "highlight": {
> >> "
> >> > time": 0 }, "stats": { "time": 0 }, "expand": { "time": 0 },
> >> "spellcheck":
> >> > {
> >> > "time": 0 }, "debug": { "time": 0 } }, "process": { "time": 18,
> "query":
> >> {
> >> > "
> >> > time": 0 }, "facet": { "time": 0 }, "mlt": { "time": 0 },
> "highlight": {
> >> "
> >> > time": 0 }, "stats": { "time": 0 }, "expand": { "time": 0 },
> >> "spellcheck":
> >> > {
> >> > "time": 0 }, "debug": { "time": 18 } }
> >> >
> >> > I think this clause is wrong:
> >> > (cents_ri: [* 3000])
> >> >
> >> > I think you mean
> >> > (cents_ri: [* TO 3000])
> >> >
> >> > I think I made no difference. I tried both and they both worked.
> >> >
> >> > But are these slow queries constant or intermittent?
> >> >
> >> > They are definetly cached. The second time runs in no time.
> >> >
> >> > I gonna try adding them in the pre warmcache too. And see the results.
> >> >
> >> > The field that I used for sorting is indexed but not stored and it's
> not
> >> a
> >> > DocValue. I tried the query without the sort and the performance didnt
> >> > change significantly.
> >> >
> >> > By the time I saw that log, the server was getting around 7k updates
> per
> >> > minute. The query information I don't have it now, but I think it will
> >> > qualify as heavy load query.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you !
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 14 October 2015 at 17:14, Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > A couple of things don't particularly make sense here:
> >> > >
> >> > > You specify edismax, q=*:* yet you specify qf=
> >> > > You're searching across whatever you defined as the default
> >> > > field in the request handler. What do you see if you attach
> >> > > &debug=true to the query?
> >> > >
> >> > > I think this clause is wrong:
> >> > > (cents_ri: [* 3000])
> >> > >
> >> > > I think you mean
> >> > > (cents_ri: [* TO 3000])
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm not sure either of those is the problem, but are places I'd
> start.
> >> > >
> >> > > As far as the size of your filter cache goes, a hit ratio of .87
> >> actually
> >> > > isn't bad. Upping the size would add some marginal benefit, but it's
> >> > > unlikely to be a magic bullet.
> >> > >
> >> > > But are these slow queries constant or intermittent? In other words,
> >> > > are all queries of this general form slow or just the first few? In
> >> > > particular
> >> > > is the first query that mentions sorting on this field slow but
> >> > subsequent
> >> > > ones faster? In that case consider adding a query to the newSearcher
> >> > > event in solrconfig.xml that mentions this sort, that would pre-warm
> >> > > the sort values. Also, defining all fields that you sort on as
> >> > > docValues="true"
> >> > > is recommended at this point.
> >> > >
> >> > > What I'd try is removing clauses to see which one is the problem. On
> >> > > the surface this is surprisingly slow. And how heavily loaded is the
> >> > > server?
> >> > > Your autocommit settings look fine, my question is more how much
> >> indexing
> >> > > and querying is going on when you take these measurements.
> >> > >
> >> > > Best,
> >> > > Erick
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 3:03 AM, Lorenzo Fundaró
> >> > > <lorenzo.fund...@dawandamail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > Hello,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have following conf for filters and commits :
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Concurrent LFU Cache(maxSize=64, initialSize=64, minSize=57,
> >> > > > acceptableSize=60, cleanupThread=false, timeDecay=true,
> >> > autowarmCount=8,
> >> > > > regenerator=org.apache.solr.search.SolrIndexSearcher$2@169ee0fd)
> >> > > >
> >> > > >      <autoCommit>
> >> > > >        <!-- Every 15 seconds -->
> >> > > >        <maxTime>${solr.autoCommit.maxTime:15000}</maxTime>
> >> > > >        <openSearcher>false</openSearcher>
> >> > > >      </autoCommit>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >      <autoSoftCommit>
> >> > > >        <!-- Every 10 minutes -->
> >> > > >        <maxTime>${solr.autoSoftCommit.maxTime:600000}</maxTime>
> >> > > >      </autoSoftCommit>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > and the following stats for filters:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > lookups = 3602
> >> > > > hits  =  3148
> >> > > > hit ratio = 0.87
> >> > > > inserts = 455
> >> > > > evictions = 400
> >> > > > size = 63
> >> > > > warmupTime = 770
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *Problem: *a lot of slow queries, for example:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > {q=*:*&tie=1.0&defType=edismax&qt=standard&json.nl
> >> > > =map&qf=&fl=pk_i,score&start=0&sort=view_counter_i
> >> > > > desc&fq={!cost=1 cache=true}type_s:Product AND
> >> > > is_valid_b:true&fq={!cost=50
> >> > > > cache=true}in_languages_t:de&fq={!cost=99
> >> > > > cache=false}(shipping_country_codes_mt: (DE OR EURO OR EUR OR
> ALL))
> >> AND
> >> > > > (cents_ri: [* 3000])&rows=36&wt=json} hits=3768003 status=0
> >> QTime=1378
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I could increase the size of the filter so I would decrease the
> >> amount
> >> > of
> >> > > > evictions, but it seems to me this would not be solving the root
> >> > problem.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Some ideas on where/how to start for optimisation ? Is it actually
> >> > normal
> >> > > > that this query takes this time ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We have an index of ~14 million docs. 4 replicas with two cores
> and 1
> >> > > shard
> >> > > > each.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > thank you.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Lorenzo Fundaro
> >> > > > Backend Engineer
> >> > > > E-Mail: lorenzo.fund...@dawandamail.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Fax       + 49 - (0)30 - 25 76 08 52
> >> > > > Tel        + 49 - (0)179 - 51 10 982
> >> > > >
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> >> > > > 10627 Berlin
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Geschäftsführer: Claudia Helming, Michael Pütz
> >> > > > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 104695 B
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Lorenzo Fundaro
> >> > Backend Engineer
> >> > E-Mail: lorenzo.fund...@dawandamail.com
> >> >
> >> > Fax       + 49 - (0)30 - 25 76 08 52
> >> > Tel        + 49 - (0)179 - 51 10 982
> >> >
> >> > DaWanda GmbH
> >> > Windscheidstraße 18
> >> > 10627 Berlin
> >> >
> >> > Geschäftsführer: Claudia Helming, Michael Pütz
> >> > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 104695 B
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > --
> > Lorenzo Fundaro
> > Backend Engineer
> > E-Mail: lorenzo.fund...@dawandamail.com
> >
> > Fax       + 49 - (0)30 - 25 76 08 52
> > Tel        + 49 - (0)179 - 51 10 982
> >
> > DaWanda GmbH
> > Windscheidstraße 18
> > 10627 Berlin
> >
> > Geschäftsführer: Claudia Helming, Michael Pütz
> > Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 104695 B
>



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