James,

Thanks so much, you were spot on and it's great to understand why I was
getting the results I was. Solving this has been a breath of fresh air and
I appreciate greatly the advice and assistance you have given!

- Matt

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Dyer, James <james.d...@ingramcontent.com>
wrote:
>
> Matt,
>
> Seeing the response, my guess is you have "point" in your index, and that
> it has a higher frequency than "rockpoint".  By default the spellchecker
> will never try to correct something that exists in your index.  Adding
> "spellcheck.onlyMorePopular=true" might help, but only if the correction
> has a higher frequency than the original.  Try using
> "spellcheck.alternativeTermCount=n" instead of
> "spellcheck.onlyMorePopular=true".  See
> http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SpellCheckComponent#spellcheck.alternativeTermCount
> for more information.
>
> James Dyer
> Ingram Content Group
> (615) 213-4311
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Mongeau [mailto:halogenandto...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:23 AM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: WordBreakSolrSpellChecker Usage
>
> I think you were right about maxChanges, that does seem get rid of the
> ridiculous values. However I don't seem to be getting anything reasonable.
> Most variations look something like:
>
>
> http://localhost:8982/solr/development/select?q=Rock+point&fq=type%3ACompany&wt=ruby&indent=true&defType=edismax&qf=name_text&stopwords=true&lowercaseOperators=true&spellcheck=true&spellcheck.count=20&spellcheck.onlyMorePopular=true&spellcheck.extendedResults=true&spellcheck.collate=true&spellcheck.maxCollations=1&spellcheck.maxCollationTries=10&spellcheck.accuracy=0.5
>
> {
>   'responseHeader'=>{
>     'status'=>0,
>     'QTime'=>20},
>   'response'=>{'numFound'=>0,'start'=>0,'docs'=>[]
>   },
>   'spellcheck'=>{
>     'suggestions'=>[
>       'rock',{
>         'numFound'=>5,
>         'startOffset'=>0,
>         'endOffset'=>4,
>         'origFreq'=>3,
>         'suggestion'=>[{
>             'word'=>'rocky',
>             'freq'=>3},
>           {
>             'word'=>'brook',
>             'freq'=>6},
>           {
>             'word'=>'york',
>             'freq'=>460},
>           {
>             'word'=>'oak',
>             'freq'=>7},
>           {
>             'word'=>'boca',
>             'freq'=>3}]},
>       'correctlySpelled',false]}}
>
>
> I'm going to post both my solrconfig.xml and schema.xml because maybe
> I'm just doing something crazy. They can both be found here:
> https://gist.github.com/halogenandtoast/76fd5dcfae1c4edeba30
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Dyer, James <james.d...@ingramcontent.com
> >
> wrote:
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > There is no exact number here, but I would think most people would want
> > "count" to be maybe 10-20.  Increasing this incurs a very small
> performance
> > penalty for each term it generates suggestions for, but you probably
> won't
> > notice a difference.  For "maxCollationTries", 5 is a reasonable number
> but
> > you might see improved collations if this is also perhaps 10.  With this
> > one, you get a much larger performance penalty, but only when it need to
> > try more combinations to return the "maxCollations".  In your case you
> have
> > this at 5 also, right?  I would reduce this to the maximum number of
> > re-written queries your application or users is actually going to use.
> In
> > a lot of cases, 1 is the right number here.  This would improve
> performance
> > for you in some cases.
> >
> > Possibly the reason “Rock point” > “Rockpoint” is failing is because you
> > have "maxChanges" set to 10.  This tells it you are willing for it to
> break
> > a word into 10 separate parts, or to combine up to 10 adjacent words into
> > 1.  Having taken a quick glance at the code, I think what is happening is
> > it is trying things like "r ock p oint" and "r o ck p o int", etc and
> never
> > getting to your intended result.  In a typical scenario I would set
> > "maxChanges" to 1-3, and often 1 is probably the most appropriate value
> > here.
> >
> > James Dyer
> > Ingram Content Group
> > (615) 213-4311
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Mongeau [mailto:halogenandto...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:34 AM
> > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: WordBreakSolrSpellChecker Usage
> >
> > Is there a suggested value for this. I bumped them up to 20 and still
> > nothing has seemed to change.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Dyer, James <
> james.d...@ingramcontent.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My first guess here, is seeing it works some of the time but not
> others,
> > > is that these values are too low:
> > >
> > > <str name="spellcheck.maxCollationTries">5</str>
> > > <str name="spellcheck.count">5</str>
> > >
> > > You know spellcheck.count is too low if the suggestion you want is not
> in
> > > the "suggestions" part of the response, but increasing it makes it get
> > > included.
> > >
> > > You know that spellcheck.maxCollationTries is too low if it exists in
> > > "suggestions" but it is not getting suggested in the "collation"
> section.
> > >
> > > James Dyer
> > > Ingram Content Group
> > > (615) 213-4311
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matt Mongeau [mailto:halogenandto...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 12:43 PM
> > > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > > Subject: Fwd: WordBreakSolrSpellChecker Usage
> > >
> > > If I have my search component setup like this
> > > https://gist.github.com/halogenandtoast/cf9f296d01527080f18c and I
> have
> > an
> > > entry for “Rockpoint” shouldn’t “Rock point” generate suggestions?
> > >
> > > This doesn't seem to be the case, but it works for "Blackstone" with
> > "Black
> > > stone". Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?
> > >
> >
>

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