Hi;

We are using the yumlock feature of the yum to protect unwanted upgrade of the some packages. Also, Ole mentioned "exclude=slurm" option of the repo file. It is not a solutionless problem. But, the package maintainer is a valued resource which hard to find.

Regards,

Ahmet M.


25.01.2021 16:59 tarihinde Andy Riebs yazdı:

Several things to keep in mind...

 1. Slurm, as a product undergoing frequent, incompatible revisions,
    is not well-suited for provisioning from a stable public
    repository! On the other hand, it's just not that hard to build a
    stable version where you can directly control the upgrade timing.
 2. If you really want a closely managed source for your Slurm RPMs,
    get them from the SchedMD website.
 3. "You could have solicited advice..." -- while this is certainly
    true, for many of us in the open source world, the standard is
    "release something quickly, and then improve it, based in part on
    feedback, over time."
 4. Slurm packages (and other contributions, including suggestions on
    this mailing list) that haven't been provided by SchedMD have
    probably been provisioned and tested by a volunteer -- be sure to
    keep the conversation civil!

Andy Riebs

On 1/25/2021 2:47 AM, Ole Holm Nielsen wrote:
On 1/23/21 9:43 PM, Philip Kovacs wrote:
I can assure you it was easier for you to filter slurm from your repos than it was for me to make them available to both epel7 and epel8.

No good deed goes unpunished I guess.

I do sympathize with your desire to make the Slurm installation a bit easier by providing RPMs via the EPEL repo.  I do not underestimate the amount of work it takes to add software to EPEL.

However, I have several issues with your approach:

1. Breaking existing Slurm installations could cause big time problems at a lot of sites!  The combined work to repair broken installations at many sites might be substantial.  Sites who are more than two releases behind 20.11 could end up with dysfunctional clusters.  You are undoubtedly aware that 20.11.3 fixes a major problem in 20.11.2 wrt. OpenMPI, so the upgrade from 20.02 to 20.11.2 may cause problems.

2. Your EPEL RPMs *must not* upgrade between major Slurm releases, like the 20.02 to 20.11 upgrade that almost happened at our site!  I refer again to the delicate upgrade procedure described in https://wiki.fysik.dtu.dk/niflheim/Slurm_installation#upgrading-slurm

3. You could have solicited advice from the slurm-users list before planning your EPEL Slurm packages.

4. How do you plan to keep updating future Slurm minor versions on EPEL in a timely fashion?

5. How did you build your RPM packages?  The built-in options may be important, for example, this might be recommended:
$ rpmbuild -ta slurm-xxx.tar.bz2 --with mysql --with slurmrestd

6. Building Slurm RPM packages is actually a tiny part of what it takes to install Slurm from scratch.  There are quite a number of prerequisites and other things to set up besides the RPMs, see
https://wiki.fysik.dtu.dk/niflheim/Slurm_installation
plus configuration of Slurm itself and its database.

In conclusion, I would urge you to ensure that your EPEL packages won't mess up existing Slurm installations!  I agree with Ryan Novosielski that you should rename your RPMs so that they don't overwrite packages built by SchedMD's rpmbuild system.

I propose that you add the major version 20.11 right after the "slurm" name so that your EPEL RPMs would be named "slurm-20.11-*" like in:

slurm-20.11-20.11.2-2.el7.x86_64

People with more knowledge of RPM than I have could help you ensure that no unwarranted upgrades or double Slurm installations can take place.

Thanks,
Ole


On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 07:03:08 AM EST, Ole Holm Nielsen <ole.h.niel...@fysik.dtu.dk> wrote:


We use the EPEL yum repository on our CentOS 7 nodes.  Today EPEL
surprisingly delivers Slurm 20.11.2 RPMs, and the daily yum updates
(luckily) fail with some errors:

--> Running transaction check
---> Package slurm.x86_64 0:20.02.6-1.el7 will be updated
--> Processing Dependency: slurm(x86-64) = 20.02.6-1.el7 for package:
slurm-libpmi-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libslurmfull.so()(64bit) for package:
slurm-libpmi-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64
---> Package slurm.x86_64 0:20.11.2-2.el7 will be an update
--> Processing Dependency: pmix for package: slurm-20.11.2-2.el7.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libfreeipmi.so.17()(64bit) for package:
slurm-20.11.2-2.el7.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libipmimonitoring.so.6()(64bit) for package:
slurm-20.11.2-2.el7.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libslurmfull-20.11.2.so()(64bit) for package:
slurm-20.11.2-2.el7.x86_64
---> Package slurm-contribs.x86_64 0:20.02.6-1.el7 will be updated
---> Package slurm-contribs.x86_64 0:20.11.2-2.el7 will be an update
---> Package slurm-devel.x86_64 0:20.02.6-1.el7 will be updated
---> Package slurm-devel.x86_64 0:20.11.2-2.el7 will be an update
---> Package slurm-perlapi.x86_64 0:20.02.6-1.el7 will be updated
---> Package slurm-perlapi.x86_64 0:20.11.2-2.el7 will be an update
---> Package slurm-slurmdbd.x86_64 0:20.02.6-1.el7 will be updated
---> Package slurm-slurmdbd.x86_64 0:20.11.2-2.el7 will be an update
--> Running transaction check
---> Package freeipmi.x86_64 0:1.5.7-3.el7 will be installed
---> Package pmix.x86_64 0:1.1.3-1.el7 will be installed
---> Package slurm.x86_64 0:20.02.6-1.el7 will be updated
--> Processing Dependency: slurm(x86-64) = 20.02.6-1.el7 for package:
slurm-libpmi-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libslurmfull.so()(64bit) for package:
slurm-libpmi-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64
---> Package slurm-libs.x86_64 0:20.11.2-2.el7 will be installed
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: slurm-libpmi-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64
(@/slurm-libpmi-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64)
             Requires: libslurmfull.so()(64bit)
             Removing: slurm-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64
(@/slurm-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64)
                 libslurmfull.so()(64bit)
             Updated By: slurm-20.11.2-2.el7.x86_64 (epel)
                 Not found
Error: Package: slurm-libpmi-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64
(@/slurm-libpmi-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64)
             Requires: slurm(x86-64) = 20.02.6-1.el7
             Removing: slurm-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64
(@/slurm-20.02.6-1.el7.x86_64)
                 slurm(x86-64) = 20.02.6-1.el7
             Updated By: slurm-20.11.2-2.el7.x86_64 (epel)
                 slurm(x86-64) = 20.11.2-2.el7
   You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
   You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest


We still run Slurm 20.02 and don't want EPEL to introduce any Slurm
updates!!  Slurm must be upgraded with some care, see for example
https://wiki.fysik.dtu.dk/niflheim/Slurm_installation#upgrading-slurm <https://wiki.fysik.dtu.dk/niflheim/Slurm_installation#upgrading-slurm>

Therefore we must disable EPEL's slurm RPMs permanently.  The fix is to
add to the file /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo an "exclude=slurm*" line like
the last line in:

[epel]
name=Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 7 - $basearch
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/7/$basearch <http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/7/$basearch> metalink=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=epel-7&arch=$basearch&infra=$infra&content=$contentdir <https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=epel-7&arch=$basearch&infra=$infra&content=$contentdir>
failovermethod=priority
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-EPEL-7
exclude=slurm*

/Ole



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