Yeah, I'm aware of the methods used to support it in SIP, but I've never 
understood why you would want to. As RFC 3578 states, if there is some switch 
in the network the requires using the overlapping process to send out digits, 
your hand might be forced. I would think that the VoIP gateway interfacing with 
this element would try to buffer the full DN, but as 3578 also states, 
sometimes it's not possible to know for sure if you've received the full DN or 
not.

No matter what, it definitely isn't something you want to choose to have 
happen, as there is no advantage that I can see in a modern trunking network of 
initially sending a subset of the total digits to be dialed.

Joel Gerber
Network Administrator
Network Operations
Eastlink
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From: Cary FitzGerald [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: July-15-13 1:12 PM
To: Joel Gerber
Cc: SIP Learner; sip-implementors
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Overlap signaling in a native SIP network

Googling for overlap signaling leads you to http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3578 
and other discussions.

Cary.

On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Joel Gerber wrote:


That's an awesome question. To be honest; I'm not sure of when it's even a good 
idea in a TDM network. The time you save in routing lookups is negligible in an 
ISUP network. Maybe during the days when MF was king it made more sense?

Joel Gerber
Network Specialist
Network Operations
Eastlink
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-----Original Message-----
From: SIP Learner [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: July-15-13 12:49 PM
To: sip-implementors
Subject: [Sip-implementors] Overlap signaling in a native SIP network

Dear All!


In PSTN networks, it's beneficial to try to establish a connection between the 
caller and the callee before the full phone number digits are collected. But 
SIP works over the connectionless IP network, is there any benefit to use 
overlap signalling in a native SIP network?


Are there any official standards or technical materials that documents overlap 
signalling in a native SIP network?


Thank you very much!




ZHANG
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