Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-06 Thread Austin English
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:48 AM, wrote: > Hi, > > Austin English wrote: >>> I don't think it's safe to assume that stderr will be lost if the >>> program was started from a .desktop file. >>The majority of users are double clicking .desktop files to start >>their applications. Where do you see std

winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-06 Thread Joerg-Cyril.Hoehle
Hi, Austin English wrote: >> I don't think it's safe to assume that stderr will be lost if the >> program was started from a .desktop file. >The majority of users are double clicking .desktop files to start >their applications. Where do you see stderr going to in this case? It is centralised to $

Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-04 Thread Austin English
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Warren Dumortier wrote: > I just responded to my previous mail, nice to see you care about that issue! > > I just want to say that nobody uses the desktop file to launch a program to > debug, i think, in response to previous messages. That would be very nice. > > Is

Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-04 Thread Warren Dumortier
I just responded to my previous mail, nice to see you care about that issue! I just want to say that nobody uses the desktop file to launch a program to debug, i think, in response to previous messages. That would be very nice. Is it difficult to implement? Why not simply add WINEDEBUG-all to gen

Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-03 Thread Vincent Povirk
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Vincent Povirk wrote: > I'll work on a patch for the FIXME thing. Turns out this is not "fairly easy" but actually "incredibly difficult". We have a fallback case at http://source.winehq.org/source/include/wine/debug.h#L133 with a macro that returns a statement tha

Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-03 Thread Austin English
You forgot to CC wine-devel in your original e-mail: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Vincent Povirk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Austin English > wrote: >> However, that's a separate issue from disabling output for .desktop >> files. I don't see many (any?) use cases where having th

Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-03 Thread Vincent Povirk
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Austin English wrote: > Why couldn't you simply use a second WINEDEBUG="fixme+all,err+all" to > override the variable in the .desktop file? The command is "env WINEPREFIX="..." WINEDEBUG=-all ...". No matter what I set WINEDEBUG to when I start that, wine will see

Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-03 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Vincent Povirk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Austin English > wrote: >> Several games experience this problem, but it's difficult to use the >> quiet fixme approach, since they have variable information. Converting >> the fixme's to trace's/warn's may b

Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-03 Thread Vincent Povirk
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Austin English wrote: > Several games experience this problem, but it's difficult to use the > quiet fixme approach, since they have variable information. Converting > the fixme's to trace's/warn's may be a viable option. What if we abandoned "print FIXME the first

Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-03 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Vincent Povirk wrote: > I'm not sure if this is a good idea. > > I don't think it's safe to assume that stderr will be lost if the > program was started from a .desktop file. The majority of users are double clicking .desktop files to start their applications. Wher

Re: winemenubuilder: disable debug output for .desktop files

2009-04-03 Thread Vincent Povirk
I'm not sure if this is a good idea. I don't think it's safe to assume that stderr will be lost if the program was started from a .desktop file. If default debug output slows anything down noticeably, that should probably be fixed. Vincent Povirk On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Austin English