FYI: Article about Microscopy and Wine

2012-03-03 Thread André Hentschel
Hi, Robert Hovden mailed me some time ago about the authors of the wiki pages and i explained him how that works. He wanted to write an Article and now here it is: You can read it here: http://onlinedigeditions.com/publication/?i=100670 The magazines web address is, http://www.microscopy

Ars Technica article

2011-06-24 Thread Brian Vincent
Here's some light reading for your weekend enjoyment. I found this on Ars Technica and thought it was a pretty good summary of some stuff from Microsoft's past and a pretty good guess at how some future technology pieces fit together. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/windows-8-for-so

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-08 Thread Gert van den Berg
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 03:55, Dan Kegel wrote: > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM, James McKenzie > wrote: >> You really underestimate the stupidity of people. > > I expect that people will do utterly stupid things, > there's no two ways around that, it's human nature. > That being the case, I thin

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/8 Dan Kegel : > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Ben Klein wrote: >> I believe the type of sandboxing being discussed includes things like >> preventing Win32 apps from breaking out into native calls using the >> infamous interrupt trick. Correct me if I'm wrong though :) > No, I was thin

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-08 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Ben Klein wrote: > I believe the type of sandboxing being discussed includes things like > preventing Win32 apps from breaking out into native calls using the > infamous interrupt trick. Correct me if I'm wrong though :) No, I was thinking of native sandboxing, so

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-08 Thread Ben Klein
2009/11/8 David Gerard : > You'd get good sandboxing running Wine apps as another user. Main > problem then is integration with the user's desktop. Doable, but a > nuisance. Not really. A separate Wine user wouldn't prevent people from running Wine as root incorrectly, and if you integrate it with

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/8 Dan Kegel : > I expect that people will do utterly stupid things, > there's no two ways around that, it's human nature. > That being the case, I think there are still opportunities > for providing a safe computing experience without > compromising the user's convenience. > Case in point:

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-07 Thread Ben Klein
2009/11/8 Dan Kegel : > The key is to require no user choices -- just do the > right thing by default.  Then the user's level of education > or computer skills don't matter. E.g., convince distros to give Wine SOCKET_RAW access using file capabilities by default?

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-07 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > You really underestimate the stupidity of people. I expect that people will do utterly stupid things, there's no two ways around that, it's human nature. That being the case, I think there are still opportunities for providing a safe computi

Re: Another article that makes me want Wine to run in a sandbox

2009-11-07 Thread James McKenzie
Dan Kegel wrote: > http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/68566.html > > The article is about users who are willing to > follow bogus instructions to solve a problem > (or install something). > > It makes me want the average desktop to be > really, really locked down... and f

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-19 Thread Austin English
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Kai Blin wrote: > That depends on being able to test a lot of applications, though. I'm working on it :-) -- -Austin

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-19 Thread Kai Blin
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 01:45:14 Scott Ritchie wrote: > I don't think we'll get much traction with this unless we can reasonably > tell them they only need to test the stable Wine release. But 1.0 is > pretty old these days, so they probably won't bother. > > I'll add it to my list of evangelism t

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-18 Thread Ben Klein
2009/5/19 Austin English : > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:48 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> 1. Find apps that work pretty much perfectly in Wine. >> 2. Ask them to declare Wine officially supported. >> 3. Add them to http://wiki.winehq.org/AppsThatSupportWine >> 4. Use 3. to add more to 2. > > You forgot

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-18 Thread Scott Ritchie
David Gerard wrote: 2009/5/18 Brian Vincent : Which leads me to my $.02: I wonder if there's a sweet spot for Wine adoption somewhere in the middle-tier of the software application popularity contest. For instance, rather than going after Photoshop or Photoshop Elements (which is still a noble

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-18 Thread Austin English
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:48 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 1. Find apps that work pretty much perfectly in Wine. > 2. Ask them to declare Wine officially supported. > 3. Add them to http://wiki.winehq.org/AppsThatSupportWine > 4. Use 3. to add more to 2. You forgot: 5. 6. Profit! :-) -- -Aust

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/5/18 Brian Vincent : > Which leads me to my $.02: I wonder if there's a sweet spot for Wine > adoption somewhere in the middle-tier of the software application popularity > contest.  For instance, rather than going after Photoshop or Photoshop > Elements (which is still a noble goal), what ab

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-18 Thread Brian Vincent
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Steven Edwards wrote: > doubt it. The situation I face with my day job, is that we can't even > get support for certain applications in VMware. As soon as we say "we > have a virtualized cluster" they balk. And we are talking about > situations where we are spendin

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-17 Thread Steven Edwards
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > Many companies don't trust Open Source.  They just don't have the assets > to do a proper code sweep and to see that we do not want to swipe their > secrets, but give them something better.  Of course, we all know the > outcome of the Window

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-17 Thread James McKenzie
Steven Edwards wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > >> Sure would be nice if we could convince the DoD they needed >> a second source for Windows :-) >> > > Maybe a big customer like the DoD would help but I am starting to > doubt it. The situation I face with my da

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-17 Thread Steven Edwards
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > Sure would be nice if we could convince the DoD they needed > a second source for Windows :-) Maybe a big customer like the DoD would help but I am starting to doubt it. The situation I face with my day job, is that we can't even get support for

re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-17 Thread Dan Kegel
James McKensie wrote: > WE need to get to the point where most of the common business type > applications will run in Wine without a bunch of twiddling and fixes. Well, yes. That was one of my goals during my big Wine push ( http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2008-February/062550.html ),

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-17 Thread James McKenzie
Scott Ritchie wrote: > nn wrote: >> >> >> WINE and the importance of application compatibility >> >> http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100567,10012751o-2000630136b,00.htm >> >> >> > > It's a good article, though it's sad to

Re: [Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-17 Thread Scott Ritchie
nn wrote: WINE and the importance of application compatibility http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100567,10012751o-2000630136b,00.htm It's a good article, though it's sad to see a mention of "WineX" as a serious alternative to Wine. WineX was obsolete years ago

[Article] WINE and the importance of application compatibility

2009-05-17 Thread nn
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Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-22 Thread Scott Ritchie
Vincent Povirk wrote: Your model makes bugs that show up in only a few applications very rare. I've added some to your existing model with duct tape. I arbitrarily decided that about 40% of apps would have 1 or 2 unique bugs, in addition to the current ones. You can better model this by just c

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-21 Thread SorinN
You can identify this first user group by searching on secular requests - Novel showed us the first line is around Adobe clients. Dreamweaver ( which work OK now ), Photoshop, Flash, InDesign maybe - so webdesigners + DTP peoples can be 'the first' client. They are many millions now - no doubt the

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-19 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/19 Roderick Colenbrander : > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Remco wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Henri Verbeet wrote: >>> 2009/4/18 Ben Klein : Right now, there's one thing bugging me: bug 14939. If Dan (or others) would like to implement a method of deferrin

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-19 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Remco wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Henri Verbeet wrote: >> 2009/4/18 Ben Klein : >>> >>> Right now, there's one thing bugging me: bug 14939. If Dan (or others) >>> would like to implement a method of deferring S3TC texture >>> decompression to the a

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Remco
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Henri Verbeet wrote: > 2009/4/18 Ben Klein : >> >> Right now, there's one thing bugging me: bug 14939. If Dan (or others) >> would like to implement a method of deferring S3TC texture >> decompression to the appropriately licensed GPU, assuming there are no >> leg

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Henri Verbeet
2009/4/18 Ben Klein : > > Right now, there's one thing bugging me: bug 14939. If Dan (or others) > would like to implement a method of deferring S3TC texture > decompression to the appropriately licensed GPU, assuming there are no > legal issues with this, I'd be ecstatic. But I'm sure the D3D devs

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/19 Rosanne DiMesio : > On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:22:34 +0100 > Reece Dunn wrote: > >> >> That also brings up a good point as to why focusing on applications - >> even those used by a large number of people - is only part of the >> equation: every user is different. > > Happiness is a subjectiv

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Reece Dunn
2009/4/18 Rosanne DiMesio : > On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:22:34 +0100 > Reece Dunn wrote: > >> That also brings up a good point as to why focusing on applications - >> even those used by a large number of people - is only part of the >> equation: every user is different. > > Happiness is a subjective s

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:22:34 +0100 Reece Dunn wrote: > > That also brings up a good point as to why focusing on applications - > even those used by a large number of people - is only part of the > equation: every user is different. Happiness is a subjective state that depends as much on the use

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Kai Blin wrote: >> The one that worked out best was to pick some random >> user who's almost happy, fix the last few bugs that >> are keeping his apps from working, and then once >> he's happy, move on to the next such user. > > The problem seems to be identifying

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Reece Dunn
2009/4/18 Susan Cragin : > I would like to put in my two cents for making Dragon NaturallySpeaking 10 > work at about "50%." > DNS 10 is a terrible program in a lot of ways. It's interface is > over-engineered, clumsy, unintuitive, and packed with features that the > average user never even look

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Susan Cragin
I would like to put in my two cents for making Dragon NaturallySpeaking 10 work at about "50%." DNS 10 is a terrible program in a lot of ways. It's interface is over-engineered, clumsy, unintuitive, and packed with features that the average user never even looks at. People who don't know DNS sa

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/18 Scott Ritchie : > Thank you Dan, you reminded me to forward my blog post to the list ;) I'm not sure how to put this into your simulation as described, but there's another effect that's important: the good-enough-to-be-beta effect. I'd say there was a significant upturn in Wine's qual

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Latimer
Scott Ritchie wrote: Reece Dunn wrote: 2009/4/18 Kai Blin : On Saturday 18 April 2009 05:21:20 Dan Kegel wrote: The one that worked out best was to pick some random user who's almost happy, fix the last few bugs that are keeping his apps from working, and then once he's happy, move on to the n

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Scott Ritchie
Reece Dunn wrote: 2009/4/18 Kai Blin : On Saturday 18 April 2009 05:21:20 Dan Kegel wrote: The one that worked out best was to pick some random user who's almost happy, fix the last few bugs that are keeping his apps from working, and then once he's happy, move on to the next such user. The pr

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Scott Ritchie
Kai Blin wrote: On Saturday 18 April 2009 05:21:20 Dan Kegel wrote: http://yokozar.org/blog/archives/48 is a fun little look at using simulation to see how various strategies might affect Wine development. Interesting, but largely academic. Fair enough. The fact that growth in applications

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Reece Dunn
2009/4/18 Kai Blin : > On Saturday 18 April 2009 05:21:20 Dan Kegel wrote: >> The one that worked out best was to pick some random >> user who's almost happy, fix the last few bugs that >> are keeping his apps from working, and then once >> he's happy, move on to the next such user. > > The problem

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-18 Thread Kai Blin
On Saturday 18 April 2009 05:21:20 Dan Kegel wrote: > http://yokozar.org/blog/archives/48 is a fun little look > at using simulation to see how various strategies > might affect Wine development. Interesting, but largely academic. > The one that worked out best was to pick some random > user who'

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-17 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Scott Ritchie wrote: >> http://yokozar.org/blog/archives/48 is a fun little look >> at using simulation to see how various strategies >> might affect Wine development. > > Thank you Dan, you reminded me to forward my blog post to the list ;) YokoZar, eh? No wonde

Re: Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-17 Thread Scott Ritchie
Dan Kegel wrote: http://yokozar.org/blog/archives/48 is a fun little look at using simulation to see how various strategies might affect Wine development. The one that worked out best was to pick some random user who's almost happy, fix the last few bugs that are keeping his apps from working, an

Article on wine development strategy

2009-04-17 Thread Dan Kegel
http://yokozar.org/blog/archives/48 is a fun little look at using simulation to see how various strategies might affect Wine development. The one that worked out best was to pick some random user who's almost happy, fix the last few bugs that are keeping his apps from working, and then once he's ha

Nice 1.0 article by Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

2008-06-12 Thread Dan Kegel
http://www.linux.com/feature/138160 It puts the release date at June 20th, but otherwise seems accurate. I was tickled by Jeremy's quote about my impact, but the real story is: Wine's lucky that a) Google happened to need Picasa on Linux, and the Picasa team was shorthanded b) I raised my hand

Article about running Adobe AIR 1.0 on wine

2008-03-08 Thread Dan Kegel
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/03/08/using-wine-to-install-adobe-air-on-linux/ Has a list of apps known not to work. Might be worth following up.

Wine's wikipedia article sucks

2007-10-08 Thread Scott Ritchie
The current article for Wine is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29 It needs a lot of work. There's a large (and growing) todo list on the talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wine_%28software%29 Some of the information needed (eg, statistics for Wine usage

article

2004-04-07 Thread Pouech Eric DMI AEI CAEN
read on from lwn.net http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-wine/?ca=dgr-lnxw04FineWine

Useful article on x86 disassembly skills

2003-10-30 Thread Mike Hearn
After finding that COM article, I decided to dig my way through the backissues of MSJ to see what other gems I could uncover. Here's one useful one: http://www.microsoft.com/msj/0298/hood0298.aspx It is a basic introduction to x86 assembly from a reverse engineers point of view. Most of

Re: A link to a article on Wine.

2003-10-08 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Hannu Valtonen wrote: > Basically the writer tried to install Paintshop Pro. Couldn't get it to > work (InstallShield problem) and was frustrated by that. On the other > hand he does recommend CrossOver Office as a polished product for firms > and Wine for those who wish to

A link to a article on Wine.

2003-10-08 Thread Hannu Valtonen
Hello, I noticed a link on LinuxToday to an article on Wine and thought people might be interested. http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020481,39116972,00.htm (Summary) Basically the writer tried to install Paintshop Pro. Couldn't get it to work (InstallShield problem) and was frust