Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-22 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Kai Blin wrote: >> >> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > > You can see that the userAgent string contains (Kubuntu)... Oh, right, thanks. I've added a lower-case ubuntu to the list, can you try again? (The search should be case- insensitive, but I h

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-22 Thread Kai Blin
On Sunday 22 February 2009 15:51:31 Dan Kegel wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Kai Blin wrote: > >> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > > > > Konqueror 3.5 on an unknown distribution Linux an unknown CPU! > > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.10

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-22 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Kai Blin wrote: >> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > > Konqueror 3.5 on an unknown distribution Linux an unknown CPU! > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.10 (like > Gecko) (Kubuntu) Yeah, that's https://bugs.launchpad.

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-22 Thread Kai Blin
> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. > > I'm kind of excited about this

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Scott Ritchie
Rosanne DiMesio wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:09 -0800 > Dan Kegel wrote: > >> Can we add in a line at the top saying >> "Stable version 1.0.1 of Wine can usually be installed >> just like any other Linux application using your >> package manager (e.g. in Ubuntu, do Applications / Add/Remo

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Remco wrote: > Filed a bug with "epiphany-browser": > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/332253 Thanks. I filed one for Konqueror, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/332340 -Dan

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:02:16PM +0100, Rolf Kalbermatter wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html and let me know if it > > detects your distro properly, I'll fix it up as needed.You're running > > Firefox 3 on an unknown dis

RE: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Rolf Kalbermatter
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html and let me know if it > detects your distro properly, I'll fix it up as needed.You're running Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Windows an unknown CPU! Firefox 3.0.6 on Windows XP SP3 userAgent

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Ben Klein
2009/2/21 Dan Kegel : > Can we add in a line at the top saying > "Stable version 1.0.1 of Wine can usually be installed > just like any other Linux application using your > package manager (e.g. in Ubuntu, do Applications / Add/Remove, > select Wine, and click Apply Changes). I know some versio

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Erich Hoover
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Remco wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Remco wrote: > > Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! > > > > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en; rv:1.9.0.6) > > Gecko/20080528 Epiphany/2.22 Firefox/3.0 > > > > I don't think you're gonna be ab

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Remco
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Remco wrote: > Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! > > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en; rv:1.9.0.6) > Gecko/20080528 Epiphany/2.22 Firefox/3.0 > > I don't think you're gonna be able to get the distribution name out of > that... a problem wit

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
>> Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! >> >> userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en; rv:1.9.0.6) >> Gecko/20080528 Epiphany/2.22 Firefox/3.0 >> >> I don't think you're gonna be able to get the distribution name out of >> that... a problem with Epiphany I guess. Right, same with Ko

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Remco
And now also to the list: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Remco wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: >> >> Please try again, and paste the entire output page, I've added more info. >> >> Thanks! >> > > Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! > > userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Erich Hoover
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Remco wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > > I'll fix it up as needed. > > It's probably a more useful test if you also print the repo

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Remco
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. It's probably a more useful test if you also print the reported user agent string. (By the way, Dan, could you somehow

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Remco
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. You're running Firefox 3 on an unknown distribution Linux! Actually: Epiphany 2.24.1 on Ubuntu 8.10 x86-64

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Erich Hoover wrote: > You could use the HTTP_USER_AGENT environment variable to do a first-order > attempt. That way for people with Javascript disabled there's at least a > chance you'll detect their distribution. Yeah, we could probably do it all in php instea

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:40:28 -0800 Dan Kegel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy White wrote: > > I can see that it consumes vertical white space, and I > > can get over myself. I remove my objection :-/. > > Thanks! > > Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javasc

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Vít Hrachový
Hi Dan, Firefox 3.1b2 on OpenSolaris 2008.11 returns: 'unknown distribution of an unknown OS'. Cheers Hark Dan Kegel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy White wrote: >> I can see that it consumes vertical white space, and I >> can get over myself. I remove my objection :-/. > > Th

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread David Gerard
2009/2/20 Dan Kegel : > Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. You're runni

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Erich Hoover
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Dan Kegel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Juan Lang wrote: > >> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > >> put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > > > > Can we also have a non-Javascript page, pleas

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Daniel Verkamp
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Daniel Verkamp wrote: >>> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html >>> and let me know if it detects your distro properly, >> >> On Gentoo with www-client/mozilla-firefox (not mozilla-firefox-bin) >> the pa

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Matt 'Murph' Finnicum
For me, it got Gentoo just fine. using: www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.1_beta2-r1 "You're using Firefox 3.1 on Gentoo Linux!" --Murph On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Daniel Verkamp wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: > [...] >> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Juan Lang wrote: >> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and >> put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > > Can we also have a non-Javascript page, please? People with > accessibility issues, and crufty old curmudge

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Daniel Verkamp wrote: >> Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html >> and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > > On Gentoo with www-client/mozilla-firefox (not mozilla-firefox-bin) > the page just detects "unknown distribution Linux". Try it now..

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Juan Lang
> Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? Can we also have a non-Javascript page, please? People with accessibility issues, and crufty old curmudgeons like me who disable Javascript by default, would apprec

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread IneedAname
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:40:28 -0800 Dan Kegel wrote: > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'll fix it up as needed. It does not my detect distro version. Can that be done?

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Daniel Verkamp
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Dan Kegel wrote: [...] > Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and > put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table? > > Please try http://kegel.com/wine/distro.html > and let me know if it detects your distro properly, > I'l

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy White wrote: > I can see that it consumes vertical white space, and I > can get over myself. I remove my objection :-/. Thanks! Next idea: why don't we detect the user's distro via javascript, and put a targeted link to the 'right' package above the table

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:47:16AM -0600, Rosanne DiMesio wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:09 -0800 > Dan Kegel wrote: > > > > > Can we add in a line at the top saying > > "Stable version 1.0.1 of Wine can usually be installed > > just like any other Linux application using your > > package

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Jeremy White
> No argument there, but the thing you want prominently placed is the > download link, not the thankyou, right? Oh, sorry; I didn't understand. I was trying to be honorable on this point by clearly revealing why that prominent placement was given to us; a truth in advertising sort of thing. I ca

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Jeremy White wrote: >>> I think we should also move the text >>> "This endorsement is the primary recognition that CodeWeavers has >>> requested in exchange for hosting the Wine web site." >>> to the bottom of the page, and change it to read >>> "Thanks to CodeWeav

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:09 -0800 Dan Kegel wrote: > > Can we add in a line at the top saying > "Stable version 1.0.1 of Wine can usually be installed > just like any other Linux application using your > package manager (e.g. in Ubuntu, do Applications / Add/Remove, > select Wine, and click

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Jeremy White
>> I think we should also move the text >> "This endorsement is the primary recognition that CodeWeavers has >> requested in exchange for hosting the Wine web site." >> to the bottom of the page, and change it to read >> "Thanks to CodeWeavers for hosting WineHQ.org". > > +1 To be very honest, th

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:37 AM, James Mckenzie wrote: > Austin English wrote: >>Sent: Feb 20, 2009 10:32 AM >>To: Dan Kegel >>Cc: "wine-devel@winehq.org" >>Subject: Re: Wine download page usability problem >> >>On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:24 A

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread James Mckenzie
Austin English wrote: >Sent: Feb 20, 2009 10:32 AM >To: Dan Kegel >Cc: "wine-devel@winehq.org" >Subject: Re: Wine download page usability problem > >On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dan Kegel wrote: >> >> Can we add in a line at the top saying >>

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Austin English
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Dan Kegel wrote: > I got email from a friend who complained how > hard it was to install wine. Turns out he > assumed he had to go to winehq.org and > follow the download instructions there, > when all he needed to do was do > Applications / Add/Remove and pick W

Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Dan Kegel
I got email from a friend who complained how hard it was to install wine. Turns out he assumed he had to go to winehq.org and follow the download instructions there, when all he needed to do was do Applications / Add/Remove and pick Wine. Can we add in a line at the top saying "Stable version 1.0