Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-13 Thread Steven Edwards
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Reece Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know what the state of installing/running Office 2003 is, > because I seem to recall there being a regression in this area. That > is something that I would consider a blocker. It installs fine, however almost not

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-13 Thread Reece Dunn
2008/6/12 Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Reece Dunn wrote: >> >> 2008/6/11 Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> In short - that after everyone's hard work and 15 years of development >>> wine-1.0 is just a release tag nothing more. >> >> I think that this is overly harsh. It's lik

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-12 Thread Steven Edwards
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Austin English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The bugs may be deferred, but if the bugs aren't reported, no one > knows to fix them, albeit not likely until after 1.0. If I recall correctly the criteria for target applications was that they be freely accessible such

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-12 Thread Tom Wickline
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Austin English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The bugs may be deferred, but if the bugs aren't reported, no one > knows to fix them, albeit not likely until after 1.0. > > Not reporting bugs is the software equivalent of people who don't vote > and expect politician

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-12 Thread Austin English
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Zachary Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Vitaliy Margolen >>> <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-12 Thread Tom Wickline
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Zachary Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Vitaliy Margolen >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Scott Ritchie wrote: In any case, we should note why we

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-12 Thread Zachary Goldberg
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Vitaliy Margolen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Scott Ritchie wrote: >>> In any case, we should note why we're making a release in the first >>> place, and make it very clear that we believe

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-12 Thread Austin English
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Vitaliy Margolen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Scott Ritchie wrote: >>> In any case, we should note why we're making a release in the first >>> place, and make it very clear that we believe

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-12 Thread Tom Wickline
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott Ritchie wrote: >> In any case, we should note why we're making a release in the first >> place, and make it very clear that we believe Wine 1.0 to be the best >> version of Wine yet in all cases (ie, no regressions

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-11 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Since all of the 1.0 blocker bugs being pushed back, wine-1.0 release notes > should list all of those as major known problems. Otherwise people will get > a bad impression that wine-1.0 means more then less working release. > > Also release notes shou

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-11 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Scott Ritchie wrote: > In any case, we should note why we're making a release in the first > place, and make it very clear that we believe Wine 1.0 to be the best > version of Wine yet in all cases (ie, no regressions). I'd disagree on "the best" part. Looking at bugzilla and forum people thing t

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-11 Thread Susan Cragin
mean, how proud do we need to be about not running everything? Susan -Original Message- >From: Reece Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jun 11, 2008 8:02 PM >To: Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: Wine Develop >Subject: Re: Wine-1.0 release notes > >200

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-11 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Reece Dunn wrote: > 2008/6/11 Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> In short - that after everyone's hard work and 15 years of development >> wine-1.0 is just a release tag nothing more. > > I think that this is overly harsh. It's like saying that you should > not celebrate a birthday, as that

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-11 Thread Reece Dunn
2008/6/11 Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In short - that after everyone's hard work and 15 years of development > wine-1.0 is just a release tag nothing more. I think that this is overly harsh. It's like saying that you should not celebrate a birthday, as that is just you aging just a day

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-11 Thread Scott Ritchie
Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Since all of the 1.0 blocker bugs being pushed back, wine-1.0 release notes > should list all of those as major known problems. Otherwise people will get > a bad impression that wine-1.0 means more then less working release. > > Also release notes shou

Re: Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-11 Thread Steven Edwards
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In short - that after everyone's hard work and 15 years of development > wine-1.0 is just a release tag nothing more. I think this deserves more discussion but I am not quite ready. I'll post a reply on Monday as an RFC

Wine-1.0 release notes

2008-06-11 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Since all of the 1.0 blocker bugs being pushed back, wine-1.0 release notes should list all of those as major known problems. Otherwise people will get a bad impression that wine-1.0 means more then less working release. Also release notes should mention that wine-1.0 is not suitable for most