Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-16 Thread Mike McCormack
Troy Rollo wrote: Perhaps what is needed is "WINE guide to copyright law" that explains how far you can go? I think you'd better stay well clear of the grey area, and keep us all out of trouble. We don't even want to start arguing about what is legal and what is not, because if it's not immed

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-15 Thread Troy Rollo
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:47, Robert Lunnon wrote: > Mind you if the leak can be proved deliberate, then a deliberate release of > such code might render the copyrights ineffective, since Microsoft was > knowingly giving the code out for distribution No. Copyright is designed to protect publishe

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-15 Thread Troy Rollo
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:32, Rein Klazes wrote: > Concerning the trade secret law vs copyright law, there is at least one > Professor of Law who is disagreeing with you. This is (by US trade > secret law) not a trade secret anymore: > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040213181852642 The re

RE: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Robert Shearman
Robert Lunnon wrote: > > The mere "claim" of an infringement by Microsoft's army of > lawyers can make > major corporations quiver in their boots. That's true. Although, the fact that we have a source control system that allows us to account for where every piece of code comes from should allow us

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Robert Lunnon
On Friday 13 February 2004 10:27, Jonathan Wilson wrote: > I heard news that windows 2000 source code was leaked and have seen what > proports to be a filelist. > > Dont know if its genuine but for everyones sake I suggest that all people > here completly ignore it (same as I will be doing) This i

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Ryan Underwood
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 04:48:19PM +0200, Sami Aario wrote: > Please let's not post with a title like "Re: Windows 2000 source code > has been leaked", and then send an empty message with a nondescript > text file attachment. Please download a mailer that works. A plain

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Sami Aario
Please let's not post with a title like "Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked", and then send an empty message with a nondescript text file attachment. Ouch!

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Ryan Underwood
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 01:46:08PM +0100, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Mike Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > We all know what the Windows code probably looks like - a > > lot of yucky hungarian C and C++. > > Name your weapons. Yucky hungarian notation, not yucky hungarians! :) -- Ryan Under

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Mike Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We all know what the Windows code probably looks like - a > lot of yucky hungarian C and C++. Name your weapons. -- Feri.

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Mike Hearn
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 03:02:40 +0100, Viktor Nilsson wrote: > Well, if you read through the code, to understand it, but you not even > try to imitate or copy it. Just write brand new code, that does the > same thing but in a slightly other way? No, that's not possible. There is apparently a ton of

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Rein Klazes wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:32:05 +0200, you wrote: What you are saying is applicable to copyright law. I.e. - if you reverse engineer the code (say, by disassembling it). If that's what you did on LEGALLY OBTAINED CODE, then you are probably ok. The reverse engineering itself

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Rein Klazes
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:32:05 +0200, you wrote: > > What you are saying is applicable to copyright law. I.e. - if you > reverse engineer the code (say, by disassembling it). If that's what you > did on LEGALLY OBTAINED CODE, then you are probably ok. The reverse > engineering itself needs to be

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Viktor Nilsson wrote: On 2004-02-13, at 18.02, Shachar Shemesh wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use common sense. IANAL The intelectual property law governing this case is the trade secret law. It says that the information is illegal to use if the recipient knows, or should have known, that i

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-13 Thread Viktor Nilsson
On 2004-02-13, at 18.02, Shachar Shemesh wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use common sense. IANAL The intelectual property law governing this case is the trade secret law. It says that the information is illegal to use if the recipient knows, or should have known, that it originated with illega

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zitat von Jonathan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I heard news that windows 2000 source code was leaked and have seen what proports to be a filelist. Dont know if its genuine but for everyones sake I suggest that all people here completly ignore it (same as I will be d

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-13 Thread Alfons Hoogervorst
Lo [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 13-02-04 (Fri) 10:49 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What will you do if somebody posts bits of it as a answer of a | question you asked? Look up his name using google? :-) Bye. -- Ecuación algebraico sin solución posible, a menos de poseer profundos conocimientos

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-13 Thread Tom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zitat von Jonathan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I heard news that windows 2000 source code was leaked and have seen what proports to be a filelist. Dont know if its genuine but for everyones sake I suggest that all people here completly ignore it (same as I will be d

Re: Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-13 Thread juergen . schmied
Zitat von Jonathan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I heard news that windows 2000 source code was leaked and have seen what > proports to be a filelist. > > Dont know if its genuine but for everyones sake I suggest that all people > here completly ignore it (same as I will be doing) It looks like

Windows 2000 source code has been leaked

2004-02-12 Thread Jonathan Wilson
I heard news that windows 2000 source code was leaked and have seen what proports to be a filelist. Dont know if its genuine but for everyones sake I suggest that all people here completly ignore it (same as I will be doing)