Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-30 Thread Dominic Wise
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 21:32 -0500, Segin wrote: > There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ > of > 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is > in > it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, > thefore, > WineTools is utterl

Re: [OT] Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-30 Thread Tom Spear
On 3/29/06, Segin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Saulius Krasuckas wrote: * On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Karl Lattimer wrote: And also, accusing people of having an IQ of 0 for replying to a flame isn't in the slightest constructive, Hardly. I have actually done something good. I

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-30 Thread Tom Spear
On 3/29/06, Chris Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How do you propose we prevent people from emailing people that post towine-devel?  How do we choose who gets to email people directly andwho doesn't?  How do we filter the contents of their email?Segin doesn't speak for the entire community and he

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Hiji
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 7:31 pm, Hiji wrote: > > How do you propose we prevent people from emailing people that post to > > wine-devel? How do we choose who gets to email people directly and > > who doesn't? How do we filter the contents of their email? > > I want to chime in and say that I'm

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Chris Morgan
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 7:31 pm, Hiji wrote: > > How do you propose we prevent people from emailing people that post to > > wine-devel? How do we choose who gets to email people directly and > > who doesn't? How do we filter the contents of their email? > > I want to chime in and say that I'm

Re: [OT] Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-29 Thread Segin
Saulius Krasuckas wrote: * On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Karl Lattimer wrote: And also, accusing people of having an IQ of 0 for replying to a flame isn't in the slightest constructive, Hardly. I have actually done something good. I got people to addresses the Winetools problem a

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Mike McCormack
Hiji wrote: I know I was the first to respond to Sergin's email by asking that he be more constructive in his feedback, but past that, none of the regulars on this thread said much. Now, his thread has spawned into something that is s far out there that it almost has no relevancy to thi

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Hiji
> How do you propose we prevent people from emailing people that post to > wine-devel? How do we choose who gets to email people directly and > who doesn't? How do we filter the contents of their email? I want to chime in and say that I'm with Tom and the ole Doc here. I don't think there's an

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Chris Morgan
> > I'm pretty sure people are capable of filtering their own email. > > Afaict the offending emails were between two individuals. You may not > > like them but that has no bearing on whether they should be allowed to > > post to the mailing list given that those emails to the mailing list > > are

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Tom Spear
On 3/29/06, Chris Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm pretty sure people are capable of filtering their own email.Afaict the offending emails were between two individuals.  You may notlike them but that has no bearing on whether they should be allowed topost to the mailing list given that those e

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Chris Morgan
I'm pretty sure people are capable of filtering their own email. Afaict the offending emails were between two individuals. You may not like them but that has no bearing on whether they should be allowed to post to the mailing list given that those emails to the mailing list are appropriate. Chri

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Tom Spear
Totally agreed.  Segin needs to be not just kick/banned from the list, he needs to be K-Lined, if not G-Lined from all things wine!  With respect to his comments though, on behalf of everyone involved with the project, and with the community as a whole, I sincerely apologize. TomOn 3/29/06, Jason G

Re: OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Jason Green
On 3/29/06, Dr J A Gow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was interested to read several comments on this list in respect of such > comments as 'IQ of zero'. Such comments were the final straw in leading me to > take this action. Thank you. It sometimes takes a thick skin to ignore the petty and chil

OT: General behaviour of the community (from 'Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all')

2006-03-29 Thread Dr J A Gow
I was interested to read several comments on this list in respect of such comments as 'IQ of zero'. Such comments were the final straw in leading me to take this action. A few days ago I sent a comment to the list. Nothing really sinister, just an observation and an experience. Before long I h

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-29 Thread Kuba Ober
Typos, typos everywhere :) > I've resisted switching from Pascal to C/C++ my whole high school, as I > considered C too have too convoluted a syntax. My opinion hasn't changed, > it's just that for a long time gcc was a tool of choice for a while and > learning C was a necessity, pure and simple.

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-29 Thread Joachim von Thadden
Am Di, Mär 28, 2006 at 03:21:01 -0500 schrieb Segin: > How? The biggest thing that makes WineTools work is it's ability to set > DLLOverrides via a config file that Wine no longer acknoleges, therfore As this myth is floating around on this list since a long time I have to repeat: WineTools is

Re: [OT] Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-29 Thread Tom Spear
On 3/29/06, Ray Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being of sensitive nature I'd remove him from the list so he will find> appropriate lists to talk constructively in. (Be I wine-devel moderator)>Poppycock. The discussion he initiated ain't that useless, and as I see it, he was rather addressing a

Re: [OT] Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-29 Thread Ray Jones
> Being of sensitive nature I'd remove him from the list so he will find > appropriate lists to talk constructively in. (Be I wine-devel moderator) > Poppycock. The discussion he initiated ain't that useless, and as I see it, he was rather addressing a possible reply denying the (read: /his/)

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-29 Thread Kuba Ober
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 23:30, Joseph Garvin wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 17:22 -0500, Kuba Ober wrote: > > I was pretty serious when I said about Lisp. Once you get to know it, > > it's an extremely agile and productive programming language that has way > > more power than Python does. > > Even

Re: [OT] Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-29 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 12:27 +0300, Saulius Krasuckas wrote: > * On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Karl Lattimer wrote: > > And also, accusing people of having an IQ of 0 for replying to a flame > > isn't in the slightest constructive, > > Yes, he didn't write any single patch yet that was accepted, still he

[OT] Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-29 Thread Saulius Krasuckas
* On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Karl Lattimer wrote: > And also, accusing people of having an IQ of 0 for replying to a flame > isn't in the slightest constructive, Yes, he didn't write any single patch yet that was accepted, still he manages to joke calling one of the developers being a monkey. (Given t

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Segin
Tom Williams wrote: Tom Spear wrote: Java, anyone? lol oh wait wait I got one better.. Fortran... or no, how about... COBOL!! LMFAO gimme a break.. Seriously though, why not break winedoors up into different components, and then have different submaintainers, and

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Joseph Garvin
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 17:22 -0500, Kuba Ober wrote: > I was pretty serious when I said about Lisp. Once you get to know it, it's an > extremely agile and productive programming language that has way more power > than Python does. Even if that statement were true (I seriously doubt you can qualif

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Tom Williams
Tom Spear wrote: > Java, anyone? lol oh wait wait I got one better.. Fortran... or no, > how about... COBOL!! LMFAO gimme a break.. > > Seriously though, why not break winedoors up into different > components, and then have different submaintainers, and each component > can be wri

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Kuba Ober
> > > Can't we do this in C? > > > > I hope you meant C++, unless you think it's productive to do a poorly > > documented and bug-ridden reimplementation of half of C++ standard > > library* > > everytime you want to do something other than a hello world application. > > > > Actually, for tools lik

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
Am Mo, Mär 27, 2006 at 09:32:29 -0500 schrieb Segin: There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, thefore, WineTools is utterly use

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Tom Spear
On 3/28/06, Kuba Ober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python!!?! i almost did a C | N > K (that would be cola, pepsi rather,> through nose to keyboard)>> ok ok ok ok although i almos-t ruined a perfectly free and good> keyboard, i don't like python cause i don't know it, and the learning > curve has b

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Kuba Ober
> Python!!?! i almost did a C | N > K (that would be cola, pepsi rather, > through nose to keyboard) > > ok ok ok ok although i almos-t ruined a perfectly free and good > keyboard, i don't like python cause i don't know it, and the learning > curve has been... dreadful. > > Can't we do this in C?

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Segin
Karl Lattimer wrote: Am Mo, M�r 27, 2006 at 09:32:29 -0500 schrieb Segin: There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, thefore, Wine

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Segin
Kai Blin wrote: * Segin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [27/03/06, 21:32:29]: There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, thefore,

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Segin
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 11:50:17AM +0200, Joris Huizer wrote: Segin wrote: There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in it's ~/.wine/config file

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Joachim von Thadden
Am Mo, Mär 27, 2006 at 09:32:29 -0500 schrieb Segin: > There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of > 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in > it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, thefore, > WineTools is utterly

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Kai Blin
* Segin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [27/03/06, 21:32:29]: > There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of > 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in > it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, thefore, > WineTools is utterly us

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 11:50:17AM +0200, Joris Huizer wrote: > Segin wrote: > >There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of > >0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in > >it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, thefo

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-28 Thread Joris Huizer
Segin wrote: There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, thefore, WineTools is utterly useless and has no point in existing AT ALL, P

Re: Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-27 Thread Hiji
--- Segin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to > this you have a IQ of > 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the > WineTools 'magic' is in > it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer > uses/acknoleges, thefore, > WineTools is utterly useless a

Why winetools is utterly useless, once and for all.

2006-03-27 Thread Segin
There is one reason, inarguable (if you reply to this you have a IQ of 0) as to why WineTools is useless: Most of the WineTools 'magic' is in it's ~/.wine/config file, which Wine no longer uses/acknoleges, thefore, WineTools is utterly useless and has no point in existing AT ALL, PERIOD.