>Feel free, if you'd like.
I did, that's why I knew how quick it was.
>But the test suite I'm designing for my project is designed for anyone
>to be able to use/run, non-interactively. Requiring sign-ups/logins is
>not acceptable for it.
Ok.
2009/5/11 Nicklas Börjesson :
>>Is possible, but since it requires a login, the script will eventually
>>fail from too many login/downloads.
>
> No, i mean that one would have to register an account for oneself and
> manually download the files to a predetermined location.
> Using the same account
>Is possible, but since it requires a login, the script will eventually
>fail from too many login/downloads.
No, i mean that one would have to register an account for oneself and manually
download the files to a predetermined location.
Using the same account for everyone would likely be some kind
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Ken Sharp wrote:
>
>
> Austin English wrote:
>
>> It's the registering/download manager that makes it not useful. It's
>> much harder to script all of that.
>>
>
> Is CS2 too old?
> http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/photoshop/win/cs2/Photoshop_CS2.exe
No, actual
2009/5/10 Nicklas Börjesson :
>> The idea is to make the test as automated as possible. That way anyone
>> can run the tests, not just people with certain programs.
>
> Ok. Well then, either:
> 1. someone can mirror those two files somewhere for easier downloading,
> 2. or one adds one or two(quite
>It's the registering/download manager that makes it not useful. It's
>much harder to script all of that.
Why script that? One doesn't need wine to download a file, right?
I really don't see what the point would be to test that.
Once you downloaded the file, you don't need to download that versi
>Photoshop, however, is harder to test,
>since it doesn't have an easy free download available.
Free photoshop trial download, you do need to register (and
download through the "download manager") though:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop
I have only tried to install
> a better strategy would be to target particular users who only
> need one application that is almost working. At least, that's
> what the model I wrote told me:
> http://yokozar.org/blog/archives/48
That strategy(to no ones surprise) appeals to me, since it
feels like common sense, and is cl
On Fri, 8 May 2009 18:43:20 +0100
IneedAname wrote:
> Windows is not free. You can buy a EeePC running Linux that has 8GB more then
> the windows version.
Both the Linux and Windows versions are at the same price.
Sorry I send this email with out finishing it.
On Thu, 7 May 2009 16:47:32 +0100
David Gerard wrote:
> Yes. The biggest problem for free-as-in-freedom software - Linux and
> GIMP, and to some extent Wine - is that Windows and Photoshop are
> effectively free-as-in-beer software ...
>
> http://autotelic.com/windows_is_free
Windows is not fre
Great find added link to AppDB entry
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=5392
Thanks.
Nat
--- On Mon, 11/5/09, Ken Sharp wrote:
> From: Ken Sharp
> Subject: Re: Shuttleworth on Wine
> To: "Austin English"
> Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org
> R
Austin English wrote:
It's the registering/download manager that makes it not useful. It's
much harder to script all of that.
Is CS2 too old?
http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/photoshop/win/cs2/Photoshop_CS2.exe
If anyone has some simple applications that are easy to test
(preferably, with no installer), shoot me an e-mail and I'll add it to
my my list of applications to look at.
Ha. That's a shame because Installshield is a real PITA. ;-)
> The idea is to make the test as automated as possible. That way anyone
> can run the tests, not just people with certain programs.
Ok. Well then, either:
1. someone can mirror those two files somewhere for easier downloading,
2. or one adds one or two(quite easy) manual step to the installation
2009/5/9 Nicklas Börjesson :
>> http://socghop.appspot.com/student_project/show/google/gsoc2009/wine/t124024892240
>> http://www.nabble.com/SOC-2009%3A-Application-Test-Suite-tc22692224.html
>
> Interesting project. At my workplace, we use TestComplete for testing
> GUI-applications,
> I have had
> http://socghop.appspot.com/student_project/show/google/gsoc2009/wine/t124024892240
> http://www.nabble.com/SOC-2009%3A-Application-Test-Suite-tc22692224.html
Interesting project. At my workplace, we use TestComplete for testing
GUI-applications,
I have had some problems finding similar applica
2009/5/9 Nicklas Börjesson :
>
>
>>It's the registering/download manager that makes it not useful. It's
>>much harder to script all of that.
>
> Why script that? One doesn't need wine to download a file, right?
> I really don't see what the point would be to test that.
> Once you downloaded the fil
2009/5/9 Nicklas Börjesson :
>>Photoshop, however, is harder to test,
>>since it doesn't have an easy free download available.
>
> Free photoshop trial download, you do need to register (and
> download through the "download manager") though:
> https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=ph
2009/5/8 Scott Ritchie :
> We had "no application regressions" as a release goal for 1.0, more or less
> - in practice that meant we were targeting every application users wanted to
> test it on. But there were also 4 specific apps targeted too - IIRC stuff
> like word viewer. In principle there'
Ben Klein wrote:
2009/5/8 Nicklas Börjesson :
And the *rest* of the world DO revolve around a few applications.
That is why they think so.
No, the rest of the world does not revolve around a few applications,
it's just that the #1 complaint against free operating systems has
been traditionally
2009/5/8 Nicklas Börjesson :
> And the *rest* of the world DO revolve around a few applications.
> That is why they think so.
No, the rest of the world does not revolve around a few applications,
it's just that the #1 complaint against free operating systems has
been traditionally "it won't run Ph
>I think you're seriously underestimating Wine, and the amount of
>'real' work it can accomplish. The world doesn't revolve around Adobe
>products, contrary to what many recent converts to GNU/Linux may
>think.
As usual, I am not talking about myself, but people in generals'
perception of it, wh
2009/5/7 Austin English :
> Though, I must say, the majority of people I see/hear using Photoshop
> *are* using it as a toy/hobby, not for 'real' work, i.e., a full time
> job.
Yes. The biggest problem for free-as-in-freedom software - Linux and
GIMP, and to some extent Wine - is that Windows an
2009/5/6 Nicklas Börjesson :
> If I were the leader of the wine project, the moment photoshop CS4 works all
> the way, that would be the basis of the next stable version(to avoid
> regessions to the highest degree)..
As has been said plenty of times before, we don't want to base Wine
releases ar
-boun...@winehq.org [mailto:wine-devel-boun...@winehq.org] On
Behalf Of Remco
Sent: den 6 maj 2009 01:35
To: Ben Klein
Cc: wine-devel@winehq.org
Subject: Re: Shuttleworth on Wine
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Ben Klein wrote:
> 2009/5/6 nn :
>>
>> And the slashdot thread:
>>
nn wrote:
Shuttleworth on Wine
http://www.osnews.com/story/21438/Shuttleworth_on_Wine
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The reason stuff like this makes the news is because everyone wants to
know about Wine in Ubuntu. The
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Ben Klein wrote:
> 2009/5/6 nn :
>>
>> And the slashdot thread:
>> Shuttleworth Says Ubuntu Can't Just Be Windows
>> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/05/1546230
>
> This is nothing new. It's just now we have a celebrity saying it.
Not only that. Canon
2009/5/6 Remco :
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Ben Klein wrote:
>> Basically, what Shuttleworth is saying is that running Windows apps (whether
>> via Wine or via porting) is unimportant to Ubuntu (or the opensource world in
>> general)
>
> He uses the word important, not unimportant. But he a
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Ben Klein wrote:
> Basically, what Shuttleworth is saying is that running Windows apps (whether
> via Wine or via porting) is unimportant to Ubuntu (or the opensource world in
> general)
He uses the word important, not unimportant. But he also says that the
intervi
2009/5/6 nn :
>
> And the slashdot thread:
> Shuttleworth Says Ubuntu Can't Just Be Windows
> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/05/1546230
This is nothing new. It's just now we have a celebrity saying it.
I also don't like the wording used; I'd prefer "Shuttleworth Says
Ubuntu Can't
2009/5/6 nn :
>
> Shuttleworth on Wine
> http://www.osnews.com/story/21438/Shuttleworth_on_Wine
>From that page:
> While Wine might play a role in some user's lives, I must admit that I
> personally never felt compelled to use it. Linux has its own set of
> applications
And the slashdot thread:
Shuttleworth Says Ubuntu Can't Just Be Windows
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/05/1546230
--- On Wed, 6/5/09, nn wrote:
> From: nn
> Subject: Shuttleworth on Wine
> To: wine-devel@winehq.org
> Received: Wednesday, 6 May, 2009, 9:04 AM
Shuttleworth on Wine
http://www.osnews.com/story/21438/Shuttleworth_on_Wine
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