Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-21 Thread Lionel Ulmer
> Is it a patent for a hrdware solution, or for software? If software then in > Europe, at least in Germany and others, it wouldn't matter because > softwarepatents are not possible (and hopefully never will). Well, since the demise of S3 (I do not remember who bought the name) the status of the p

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-20 Thread Keith Matthews
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:26:53 +0100 Keith Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:23:44 +0200 > "Ivan Leo Murray-Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Is it a patent for a hrdware solution, or for software? If software then in > > >Europe, at least in Germany and others, it

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-19 Thread Keith Matthews
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:23:44 +0200 "Ivan Leo Murray-Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is it a patent for a hrdware solution, or for software? If software then in > >Europe, at least in Germany and others, it wouldn't matter because > >softwarepatents are not possible (and hopefully never will).

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-19 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:20:29 +0200, "Ivan Leo Murray-Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >No, if you're in the US and publish something in the EU, you aren't violating >any US law, as you aren't publising anything in the US. If this isn't the case, I'm not hundred percent sure. If you are in the US

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-19 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>But what would that mean for the developers in the US? Just because the >sources are hosted in EU would still render them useless for US developers. No, if you're in the US and publish something in the EU, you aren't violating any US law, as you aren't publising anything in the US. If this isn't t

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-19 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:23:44 +0200, "Ivan Leo Murray-Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Also, this thread should be on wine-license. Sorry, but I haven't subscribed to it. I hope this is acceptable. If not I stop posting here in this thread. >It wouldn't be hard to host wine in the EU, codeweave

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-19 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>Is it a patent for a hrdware solution, or for software? If software then in >Europe, at least in Germany and others, it wouldn't matter because >softwarepatents are not possible (and hopefully never will). Software patents are illegal in all the EU, and it will stay like that thanks to the latest

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-19 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>hell, if MS can get a patent on NTFS they can get a >patent on anything. I do remember reading that the WTO decided that APIs aren't patentable.

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-17 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:58:42 +0200, Lionel Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The big question is when the card does not support it and we need to do the >decompression in software and send it back to the card In this case, do >we violate it or not ? Is it a patent for a hrdware solution, or f

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-17 Thread Mike Hearn
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 17:36, Geoff Thorpe wrote: > On October 17, 2003 11:56 am, Mike Hearn wrote: > > In future please do not raise patents on this list. What we don't know, > > can't hurt us (as much). > > IANAL, but I beg to differ. I'm not either, but the advice I gave is based on similar dis

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-17 Thread Lionel Ulmer
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:47:04AM -0400, Vincent Béron wrote: > Le ven 17/10/2003 à 11:24, Jonathan Wilson a écrit : > > What specificly does this patent cover and what parts of WINE would it affect? > > (i.e. which bits of windows, if implemented in WINE, would fall under the > > patent?) > > P

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-17 Thread Geoff Thorpe
On October 17, 2003 11:56 am, Mike Hearn wrote: > In future please do not raise patents on this list. What we don't know, > can't hurt us (as much). IANAL, but I beg to differ. First, Wine should be reasonably well protected against patent infringement, because (and I mean this in the nicest way

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-17 Thread Mike Hearn
In future please do not raise patents on this list. What we don't know, can't hurt us (as much). On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 16:24, Jonathan Wilson wrote: > What specificly does this patent cover and what parts of WINE would it affect? > (i.e. which bits of windows, if implemented in WINE, would fall un

Re: S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-17 Thread Vincent Béron
Le ven 17/10/2003 à 11:24, Jonathan Wilson a écrit : > What specificly does this patent cover and what parts of WINE would it affect? > (i.e. which bits of windows, if implemented in WINE, would fall under the > patent?) Probably not much, since (IANAL) it'd be the GL driver doing the actual work

S3 texture compression patent

2003-10-17 Thread Jonathan Wilson
What specificly does this patent cover and what parts of WINE would it affect? (i.e. which bits of windows, if implemented in WINE, would fall under the patent?)