Re: Project David

2004-05-08 Thread Mike McCormack
here are more clues that this project David is just a (possibly repackaged) Wine. Gé van Geldorp. Actually, it's just Crossover Office's Wine repackaged. Check out this screenshot: http://www.flexbeta.net/images/david/word2.gif Look closely at right and bottom side of the window. The

Fw: Project David

2004-05-08 Thread MediaHost \(TM\)
t.org > - Original Message - > From: "Ge van Geldorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 12:44 AM > Subject: Project David > > > > There are some screenshots available now at > > http://www

Re: Project David

2004-05-08 Thread Tim Hentenaar
://www.flexbeta.net/images/david/winbridge_install.gif the second > line in winbridge.lst is /etc/wine... There are more clues that this > project David is just a (possibly repackaged) Wine. You can also see "/usr/bin/wine-" in there as well. IMO it's rather ironic :P Tim

Project David

2004-05-08 Thread Ge van Geldorp
that this project David is just a (possibly repackaged) Wine. Gé van Geldorp.

Re: project David?

2004-04-23 Thread R.U. Deranged
Found some additional tidbits of info on "David" scattered among the following: http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20040421225912693 http://www.mb.com.ph/INFO200404207565.html http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/040422/15/3joiz.html http://www.linuxworld.com/story/44568.htm http://www.desktoplinux

Re: project David?

2004-04-23 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Tim Hentenaar wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:53:40 -0500 "R.U. Deranged" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The article states "David" is currently 80 MB. Anyone care to wager on how much of that is Wine code? Their developers sure have been busy... Yeah, I can almost predict that it will be at

Re: project David?

2004-04-23 Thread R.U. Deranged
On Friday 23 April 2004 1:17 pm, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: > Did the demo happen? What was the outcome? Unknown. I'm still scanning for any word on that. In the meantime, here's some more info I dug up: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=15496 http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/ index.jsp?section

Re: project David?

2004-04-23 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
R.U. Deranged wrote: I'd also like to respond, as if their BS actually needs to be taken seriously, that I have personally never had a Win32 application under Wine crash my Linux kernel, nor have I experienced a Blue Screen of Death while running an application under Wine. For me, that pretty mu

Re: project David?

2004-04-23 Thread Tim Hentenaar
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:53:40 -0500 "R.U. Deranged" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The article states "David" is currently 80 MB. Anyone care to wager on how > much of that is Wine code? Their developers sure have been busy... > Yeah, I can almost predict that it will be at least 75% Wine code

Re: project David?

2004-04-23 Thread R.U. Deranged
A story on this has finally hit the AP wire today: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=562&ncid=738&e=9&u=/ ap/20040423/ap_on_hi_te/philippines_linux Unfortunately the reporter hasn't done his homework and is obviously ignorant about running Windows applications on Linux, and Linux i

Re: project David?

2004-04-23 Thread Henk Poley
R.U. Deranged wrote: > > On Thursday 22 April 2004 12:08 pm, Rein Klazes wrote: >> >> Somehow, we are doing something far to complicated: >> >> http://www.specopslabs.com/david.htm > > If you can pierce through all that marketing hype, it seems to indicate > they're using some code from the Wine p

Re: project David? (Rein Klazes)

2004-04-23 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
A couple of statements on their web site: "One of the problems of the MS Windows OS is that it is subject to crash applications and itself. While studying the Microsoft Windows OS, we found the design flaw that causes this problem." _the_ design flaw? Marketing hype. It seems from later state

Re: project David?

2004-04-23 Thread Robert van Herk
And what about their claim that they will "incorporate the OS into a browser", meaning that "an OS will become virtually useless?". :-S. Robert

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread Abby Ricart
> - They will build this David thing in 6 - 8 weeks If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I wouldn't touch this thing with a thirty foot pole.

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread R.U. Deranged
FYI, here's a press release from these jokers on Yahoo! Finance Singapore: http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/040421/15/3jnea.html Interesting that their web site is referenced in the release, but no link is provided.

RE: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread Ge van Geldorp
> From: Mike McCormack > > My guess is that they're going to try implement the NT Native API > (system calls using INT 2F(?)) in the Linux kernel, then > install Windows > 2000 on top. That would make them somewhat similar to Win4Lin. I guess you'd need a Windows license then, and they say on

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread Mike McCormack
My guess is that they're going to try implement the NT Native API (system calls using INT 2F(?)) in the Linux kernel, then install Windows 2000 on top. That would make them somewhat similar to Win4Lin. Mike Rein Klazes wrote: Hi, Somehow, we are doing something far to complicated: http://www

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread Geoff Thorpe
On April 22, 2004 04:46 pm, R.U. Deranged wrote: > Incidentally I wonder how Bill Joy would feel about his words and name > being misused as a virtual endorsement of this company in their > marketing spiel. Overjoyed would perhaps be the term. BTW: The very second their "demo" hits the wires, the

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread R.U. Deranged
I'd also like to respond, as if their BS actually needs to be taken seriously, that I have personally never had a Win32 application under Wine crash my Linux kernel, nor have I experienced a Blue Screen of Death while running an application under Wine. For me, that pretty much negates the "marke

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Rein Klazes wrote: Hi, Somehow, we are doing something far to complicated: http://www.specopslabs.com/david.htm Rein. I must be not getting something. Am I the only one who sees this as a contradiction? First they say: However, unlike our competitors, SpecOpS Labs has identified the flaws

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread Mike Hearn
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 19:08:11 +0200, Rein Klazes wrote: > Somehow, we are doing something far to complicated: Yeah, we're actually solving the problem instead of scamming investors out of their cash - or was I the only one who watched Hustle ? Of course it's possible that they found some amazing w

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread Tim Hentenaar
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:52:05 -0400 Kevin Koltzau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And on > http://www.specopslabs.com/market_competition4.htm > They mention just taking all the previous > open source windows compatibility projects and > "incorporating the best features" of them all > > I wonder what

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread Kevin Koltzau
Looking on http://www.specopslabs.com/david_development.htm it doesn't sound like they've done much other then come up with a business model based on theoretical goals And on http://www.specopslabs.com/market_competition4.htm They mention just taking all the previous open source windows compatibil

Re: project David?

2004-04-22 Thread R.U. Deranged
On Thursday 22 April 2004 12:08 pm, Rein Klazes wrote: > Hi, > > Somehow, we are doing something far to complicated: > > http://www.specopslabs.com/david.htm If you can pierce through all that marketing hype, it seems to indicate they're using some code from the Wine project. I hope they're in co

project David?

2004-04-22 Thread Rein Klazes
Hi, Somehow, we are doing something far to complicated: http://www.specopslabs.com/david.htm Rein. -- Rein Klazes [EMAIL PROTECTED]