Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-29 Thread Molle Bestefich
Jeremy Newman wrote: > Molle Bestefich wrote: > > Jeremy Newman wrote: > > > Just wanted to make my point that it would be crazy to loose all the > > > useful features that SGML provides. > > > > MoinMoin 1.3.5 supports DocBook parsing and generation. And if that's not good enough, there's another

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-04 Thread Molle Bestefich
Jeremy Newman wrote: > > Killer!... > > MoinMoin 1.3.5 supports DocBook parsing and generation. > > > > Any reason why that wouldn't be good enough? > > We need to weigh all the possibilities here. Jumping from our current > process is not something that will happen overnight. My first reaction > i

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-04 Thread Jeremy Newman
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 15:26 +, Molle Bestefich wrote: > Jeremy Newman wrote: > > Just wanted to make my point that it would be crazy to loose all the > > useful features that SGML provides. > > Killer!... > MoinMoin 1.3.5 supports DocBook parsing and generation. > > Any reason why that wouldn

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-04 Thread Chris Morgan
If we are going to consider moving the wiki can we move to wiki software that lets you use html in wiki entries? I'd imagine not having to learn wiki tags would make it easier for people to produce well formatted pages. Chris On 10/4/05, Jeremy Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-1

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-04 Thread Molle Bestefich
Jeremy Newman wrote: > Just wanted to make my point that it would be crazy to loose all the > useful features that SGML provides. Killer!... MoinMoin 1.3.5 supports DocBook parsing and generation. Any reason why that wouldn't be good enough? > It's not hard to learn to use and submit > patches

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-04 Thread Jeremy Newman
On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 17:10 +0200, Jonathan Ernst wrote: > That was exactly what I wanted to do: > > - let the sgml, wwn, press releases and so on where they are > - move the rest to the wiki > > Sorry if that was not clear enough in my first message (when I said > static I meant content that is

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-04 Thread Jonathan Ernst
Le mardi 04 octobre 2005 à 09:40 -0500, Jeremy Newman a écrit : > Also, don't forget. The WineHQ docs are in SGML which provides tools to > convert it to any format. (html, PS, PDF, etc.) We really don't want to > give up on those abilities. > > For any page that isn't SGML, sure it could be conve

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-04 Thread Molle Bestefich
Jeremy Newman wrote: > Also, don't forget. The WineHQ docs are in SGML which provides tools to > convert it to any format. (html, PS, PDF, etc.) We really don't want to > give up on those abilities. Right. Hmm, let's see. Counting the number of items currently in use in the SGML docs, there's: *

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-04 Thread Jeremy Newman
Also, don't forget. The WineHQ docs are in SGML which provides tools to convert it to any format. (html, PS, PDF, etc.) We really don't want to give up on those abilities. For any page that isn't SGML, sure it could be converted into a Wiki. In fact, I'm now considering moving the entire WineHQ si

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-04 Thread Molle Bestefich
Molle Bestefich wrote: > > This method is already available in the form of checking out lostwages > > cvs, making changes, doing a diff, and sending in the patch to be > > accepted. The only difference is that anyone can make changes to > > lostwages this way (assuming they get committed). > > But

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Molle Bestefich
James Hawkins wrote: > Molle Bestefich wrote: > > Isn't there a compromise where Wiki's upfront editing capabilities can > > be used to ensure up-to-date, dynamic content while you also make sure > > that nobody wrecks the pages? > > > > I'm no wiki expert, but it seems like an obvious solution to

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Jonathan Ernst
Le lundi 03 octobre 2005 à 13:23 -0700, Dan Kegel a écrit : > On 10/3/05, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This method is already available in the form of checking out lostwages > > cvs, making changes, doing a diff, and sending in the patch to be > > accepted. The only difference is t

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Dan Kegel
On 10/3/05, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This method is already available in the form of checking out lostwages > cvs, making changes, doing a diff, and sending in the patch to be > accepted. The only difference is that anyone can make changes to > lostwages this way (assuming they g

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Dimi Paun
From: "Brian Vincent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'll agree for the same reasons Jeremy cited. The static pages are > relatively static and one of the only exceptions to that was a > Janitorial page which really required a quick way to jot down ideas. > There are two pages that might be useful to mov

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread James Hawkins
On 10/3/05, Molle Bestefich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Isn't there a compromise where Wiki's upfront editing capabilities can > be used to ensure up-to-date, dynamic content while you also make sure > that nobody wrecks the pages? > > I'm no wiki expert, but it seems like an obvious solution to

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Molle Bestefich
Jeremy White wrote: > > I'm willing to move every simple textual (static content) page from the > > website to the Wiki and link from the website to the corresponding > > pages. > > I think this is a bad idea. > > The current system ensures that changes to the core parts > of WineHQ are reviewed be

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Jonathan Ernst
Le lundi 03 octobre 2005 à 09:25 -0700, Dan Kegel a écrit : > On 10/3/05, Jonathan Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm willing to move every simple textual (static content) page from the > > website to the Wiki > > Please don't do this. I won't as nobody wants it. Let's just hope that the do

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Dan Kegel
On 10/3/05, Jonathan Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm willing to move every simple textual (static content) page from the > website to the Wiki Please don't do this.

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Brian Vincent
On 10/3/05, Jeremy White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm willing to move every simple textual (static content) page from the > > website to the Wiki and link from the website to the corresponding > > pages. I'll agree for the same reasons Jeremy cited. The static pages are relatively static an

Re: Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Jeremy White
> I'm willing to move every simple textual (static content) page from the > website to the Wiki and link from the website to the corresponding > pages. I think this is a bad idea. The current system ensures that changes to the core parts of WineHQ are reviewed before being made, whereas a Wiki ca

Migrate website documentation to the Wiki

2005-10-03 Thread Jonathan Ernst
Hi everyone, I'm willing to move every simple textual (static content) page from the website to the Wiki and link from the website to the corresponding pages. The advantages are obvious: - makes it easy to keep these pages up-to-date - makes it easy for non-dev. contributors to keep these pages u