Re: [lostwages] Set about page to use h3 instead of h2 as text is too large

2009-08-07 Thread Scott Ritchie
Yuri Khan wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 19:50, Scott Ritchie wrote: >> -Open Source and User Driven >> +Open Source and User Driven > > Font size is not a valid excuse for skipping heading levels. > Presentation issues should be handled in CSS. > > I agree with this in principle, however I was

Re: [lostwages] Set about page to use h3 instead of h2 as text is too large

2009-08-06 Thread Yuri Khan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 19:50, Scott Ritchie wrote: > -Open Source and User Driven > +Open Source and User Driven Font size is not a valid excuse for skipping heading levels. Presentation issues should be handled in CSS.

Re: Patchwatcher is watching lostwages patches

2008-10-15 Thread Dan Kegel
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Scott Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a small bug, but patchwatcher is complaining about my lostwages > patch not applying. Yeah, that's one of the many known bugs. When I have time to work on patchwatcher, which isn't oft

Patchwatcher is watching lostwages patches

2008-10-14 Thread Scott Ritchie
Just a small bug, but patchwatcher is complaining about my lostwages patch not applying. Thanks, Scott Ritchie

[lostwages] update LGPL url, specify version

2008-04-19 Thread Dan Kegel
Somebody on wine-users asked us to clarify this, so: diff --git a/templates/en/home_about.template b/templates/en/home_about.template index aed434a..8af3209 100644 --- a/templates/en/home_about.template +++ b/templates/en/home_about.template @@ -26,5 +26,5 @@ at the User Guide. Wine is free so

lostwages CVS moved into GIT

2007-09-11 Thread Jeremy Newman
We have switched our website sources (previously known as lostwages), over to git. >From this point on I would prefer if all patches came from the git tree. Refer to the git documentation on the website and wiki on how to prepare patches with git. The git module is called simply "website".

Re: Lostwages : contributing.diff

2007-08-03 Thread Jeremy White
; Changelog: update WPF information and mailing address > > > > > Index: en/contributing.template > === > RCS file: /home/wine/lostwages/temp

Re: lostwages/ news/2006081001.xml news/2007021602 ...

2007-02-18 Thread Jeremy Newman
it > > Module name:lostwages > > Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007/02/16 18:13:29 > > Could we get rid of wineowner account? It makes it impossible to know > who's doing the changes. Each user having access to the WineHQ box > should have his own login. > > Welcome back Brian (if I read the wwn right). >

Re: lostwages/ news/2006081001.xml news/2007021602 ...

2007-02-17 Thread Francois Gouget
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, WineHQ wrote: > ChangeSet ID: 30931 > CVSROOT: /opt/cvs-commit > Module name: lostwages > Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007/02/16 18:13:29 Could we get rid of wineowner account? It makes it impossible to know who's doing the changes. Each u

Re: [lostwages] Update download-deb page with better information, error fixes

2007-02-04 Thread Detlef Riekenberg
On Sa, 2007-02-03 at 13:00 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: > > The Sidenet - Script is still there. > > > I removed all traces of it from the wine wiki page I set up here, which > the download-deb page should link to now: > http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64 > I agree with you and Vitaly about this,

Re: [lostwages] Update download-deb page with better information, error fixes

2007-02-03 Thread Detlef Riekenberg
On Sa, 2007-02-03 at 01:33 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: > I'll change the link to a page on our wiki with the same info and > resend. Please remove the tips for libxxf86dga from http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64 winex11.drv dropped DGA Support at the end of July 2006 Thanks -- By by ...

Re: [lostwages] Update download-deb page with better information, error fixes

2007-02-03 Thread Scott Ritchie
On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 21:52 +0100, Detlef Riekenberg wrote: > On Sa, 2007-02-03 at 01:33 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: > > > > > > > > And as a Note on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/I386WineInAmd64 and > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64 > > > > > > > > The provided automatic installat

Re: [lostwages] Update download-deb page with better information, error fixes

2007-02-03 Thread Detlef Riekenberg
On Sa, 2007-02-03 at 01:33 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: > > > > > > And as a Note on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/I386WineInAmd64 and > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64 > > > > > > The provided automatic installation script includes the sidenet-script. > > > Please include a BIG WARNI

Re: [lostwages] Update download-deb page with better information, error fixes

2007-02-03 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Scott Ritchie wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 00:06 -0700, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: >> Detlef Riekenberg wrote: >>> On Di, 2007-01-30 at 01:09 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: + +While there is currently no Wine package explicitly designed for the 64-bit version +of Ubuntu, there are

Re: [lostwages] Update download-deb page with better information, error fixes

2007-02-03 Thread Scott Ritchie
On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 00:06 -0700, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Detlef Riekenberg wrote: > > On Di, 2007-01-30 at 01:09 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: > >> + > >> +While there is currently no Wine package explicitly designed for > >> the 64-bit version > >> +of Ubuntu, there are several hacks that can b

Re: [lostwages] Update download-deb page with better information, error fixes

2007-02-02 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Detlef Riekenberg wrote: > On Di, 2007-01-30 at 01:09 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: >> + >> +While there is currently no Wine package explicitly designed for >> the 64-bit version >> +of Ubuntu, there are several hacks that can be used to install the >> 32-bit package >> +into the 64-bit distributio

Re: [lostwages] Update download-deb page with better information, error fixes

2007-01-30 Thread Detlef Riekenberg
On Di, 2007-01-30 at 01:09 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: > + > +While there is currently no Wine package explicitly designed for > the 64-bit version > +of Ubuntu, there are several hacks that can be used to install the > 32-bit package > +into the 64-bit distribution and have it function normally.

Please commit my lostwages patch

2006-11-03 Thread Scott Ritchie
Hey, I'm not sure who is responsible for it, but could someone please get my lostwages patch committed today? I've been getting a bunch of emails about Ubuntu Edgy because the website hasn't been updated yet. Thanks, Scott Ritchie

Re: LOSTWAGES: Instructions for getting additional modules

2006-10-03 Thread Francois Gouget
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Mike McCormack wrote: [...] > They're still available at the old link: > > http://www.winehq.org/site/cvs Yes, but this makes it harder to find them which is not going to foster activity on the Wine documentation for instance! > It would be nice to move the remaining modul

Re: LOSTWAGES: Instructions for getting additional modules

2006-09-28 Thread Detlef Riekenberg
On Do, 2006-09-28 at 05:31 +0900, Mike McCormack wrote: > > When switching the Instructions for the Wine tree > > from cvs to git, the Instructions for the > > additional modules (docs, lostwages, ...) got lost. > > They're still available at the old link: > >

Re: LOSTWAGES: Instructions for getting additional modules

2006-09-27 Thread Tom Wickline
On 9/27/06, Mike McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be nice to move the remaining modules to Git too, IMO. And you can do all future web site matince IMO! Tom Mike

Re: LOSTWAGES: Instructions for getting additional modules

2006-09-27 Thread Mike McCormack
Detlef Riekenberg wrote: When switching the Instructions for the Wine tree from cvs to git, the Instructions for the additional modules (docs, lostwages, ...) got lost. They're still available at the old link: http://www.winehq.org/site/cvs It would be nice to move the remaining modul

Re: LOSTWAGES: WWN 292 & 320 updates

2006-09-25 Thread Tom Wickline
On 9/25/06, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/23/06, Mirek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Also Wine reports 64MB of video memory not 16MB > > I think there shuld be option in winecfg to set this, because it is not easy to > find how anyone can do that. http://wiki.winehq.org/Usef

Re: LOSTWAGES: WWN 292 & 320 updates

2006-09-25 Thread Tom Wickline
On 9/23/06, Mirek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also Wine reports 64MB of video memory not 16MB I think there shuld be option in winecfg to set this, because it is not easy to find how anyone can do that. http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys Tom

Re: LOSTWAGES: WWN 292 & 320 updates

2006-09-24 Thread H. Verbeet
On 23/09/06, Mirek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also changed what benchmarks I had running at this years WineConf > 3DMark2000, 3DMark2001SE and 3DMark2003... I have 3DMark2006 running > and its beautiful, well beauty is in the eye of the beholder > All of the test run in all three of the bench

Re: LOSTWAGES: Update the bus information for WineConf

2006-09-14 Thread Eric Pouech
el.template ===RCS file: /home/wine/lostwages/templates/en/wineconf/travel.template,vretrieving revision 1.18diff -u -p -r1.18 travel.template--- templates/en/wineconf/travel.template   2 Aug 2006 19:03:42 -   1.18+++ templates/en/wineconf/travel.templa

Re: LOSTWAGES: press update

2006-09-06 Thread Tom Wickline
On 9/6/06, Paul Vriens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 12:58 -0400, Tom Wickline wrote: > Hello, > > If I overlooked something send me the link. > > Tom > > Changelog: update the press page Hi Tom, the latest edition of Tux Magazine (http://www.tuxmagazine.com/) has some stuff

Re: LOSTWAGES: press update

2006-09-06 Thread Paul Vriens
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 12:58 -0400, Tom Wickline wrote: > Hello, > > If I overlooked something send me the link. > > Tom > > Changelog: update the press page Hi Tom, the latest edition of Tux Magazine (http://www.tuxmagazine.com/) has some stuff about CrossOver Office, Cedega and Wine. Cheers,

Re: LOSTWAGES: who's who

2006-09-06 Thread Tom Wickline
On 9/6/06, Christoph Frick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:21:42AM -0400, Tom Wickline wrote: > -Jason Edmeades > -Jukka Heinonen > -Ove Kåven > -Shachar Shemesh > -Oliver Stieber > -Greg Turner would it not be more kind to move the "veterans" into their own section instea

Re: LOSTWAGES: who's who

2006-09-06 Thread Christoph Frick
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:21:42AM -0400, Tom Wickline wrote: > -Jason Edmeades > -Jukka Heinonen > -Ove Kåven > -Shachar Shemesh > -Oliver Stieber > -Greg Turner would it not be more kind to move the "veterans" into their own section instead of removing them at all? at least they managed to get

Re: LOSTWAGES: News : 9.20 release

2006-08-31 Thread Robert Shearman
Tom Wickline wrote: Hello, News Wine 9.20 released Tom 0a1,28 Please use "diff -u" for website patches. -- Rob Shearman

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-25 Thread Mike McCormack
Jeff Latimer wrote: have. However after that I end up with this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wing]$ git rebase --continue You must edit all merge conflicts and then mark them as resolved using git update-index I also have the options of git rebase --abort and git rebase --skip which I am not sure of

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-25 Thread Jeff Latimer
Jeff Latimer wrote: Mike I suppose that the problem is that wrapping your mind around git and working out how to handle patches, especially as it takes time to get them accepted, revert them and manage trees etc is difficult. I don't know about other but I have had a number of perplexing and

Re: LOSTWAGES: Fix the UI status page html and links

2006-08-25 Thread Dimi Paun
On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 19:30 +0900, Mike McCormack wrote: > > Maybe we should move this to the Wiki too? Maybe. But it changes seldom enough, and I think it will be ugly to get all the formatting right in the Wiki format. -- Dimi Paun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lattica, Inc.

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Colin Pitrat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How is it easier to do cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/wine co -P wine than git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git wine In both case, you just have to copy/paste the command line from the web page. Right. But if you compare the si

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Troy Rollo
On Monday 21 August 2006 21:22, Jeff Latimer wrote: > Mike I suppose that the problem is that wrapping your mind around git > and working out how to handle patches, especially as it takes time to > get them accepted, revert them and manage trees etc is difficult. The way git does version control

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Saulius Krasuckas
* On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, EA Durbin wrote: > > > How is it easier to do > > cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/wine co -P wine > > > > than > > git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git wine > > because git doesn't seem to work on my machine, EA, so this simply means my notes on taki

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread EA Durbin
How is it easier to do cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/wine co -P wine than git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git wine because git doesn't seem to work on my machine, and I've never had problems with the tried and trusted CVS, I'm familiar with CVS as are the majority of

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Colin Pitrat
EA Durbin wrote: > > if your not going to be submitting any patches its easier to get wine > from CVS than GIT. > How is it easier to do cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/wine co -P wine than git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git wine In both case, you just have to copy/paste

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Mike McCormack
Jeff Latimer wrote: Mike I suppose that the problem is that wrapping your mind around git and working out how to handle patches, especially as it takes time to get them accepted, revert them and manage trees etc is difficult. I don't know about other but I have had a number of perplexing and

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread EA Durbin
If CVS goes, is there another way to see what patches have been applied to the tree? The git does not seem to do that for me and cvs.winehq.org is a fairly easy lookup. Jeff You can view the [EMAIL PROTECTED] over newsreader, but I still like the web interface for CVS to view APPDB code

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Tom Wickline
On 8/21/06, Jeff Latimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If CVS goes, is there another way to see what patches have been applied to the tree? The git does not seem to do that for me and cvs.winehq.org is a fairly easy lookup. Jeff To visualize the history just do something like this. $ gitk -

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Jeff Latimer
Mike McCormack wrote: Jeff Latimer wrote: If CVS goes, is there another way to see what patches have been applied to the tree? The git does not seem to do that for me and cvs.winehq.org is a fairly easy lookup. If you have a local git tree, "git whatchanged" will give you the complete c

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Mike McCormack
Jeff Latimer wrote: If CVS goes, is there another way to see what patches have been applied to the tree? The git does not seem to do that for me and cvs.winehq.org is a fairly easy lookup. If you have a local git tree, "git whatchanged" will give you the complete commit history. There's

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Jeff Latimer
Alexandre Julliard wrote: Michael Stefaniuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Are there any plans to get rid of CVS? I would guess keeping the CVS tree sync from the git tree is low maintanance so it can be kept around "forewever". Yes, as long as it doesn't require any maint

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Michael Stefaniuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But i also guess that he likes to receive more patches than less. For > the casual/new Wine patch submitter CVS is easier to use. If those > submitters do more Wine work they will see the light anyway and migrate > to git ;) More patches are good, b

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Christoph Frick
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 11:33:28AM +0200, Michael Stefaniuc wrote: > > My changes to the website reflect that support for CVS may not last > > forever... > Are there any plans to get rid of CVS? I would guess keeping the CVS > tree sync from the git tree is low maintanance so it can be kept > arou

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-21 Thread Michael Stefaniuc
Mike McCormack wrote: > > Robert Shearman wrote: > >> I think we should leave the reference to the CVS tree page (but still >> add a link to the Git tree). Some people find it easier to work with >> CVS than Git. > > > I think Alexandre would prefer to receive patch submissions in Git > format,

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-20 Thread Mike McCormack
Robert Shearman wrote: I think we should leave the reference to the CVS tree page (but still add a link to the Git tree). Some people find it easier to work with CVS than Git. I think Alexandre would prefer to receive patch submissions in Git format, as they are easier to apply and waste le

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-20 Thread Saulius Krasuckas
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:45:03 +0300 (EEST) > From: Saulius Krasuckas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:36:31 -0500 > > From: EA Durbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > When trying to run git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git wine or > > git clone http://source.winehq.or

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-20 Thread Saulius Krasuckas
> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:36:31 -0500 > From: EA Durbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 1.0.3 is the latest version in the ubuntu repository, even after > uncommenting all the #deb lines in the apt config file and updating. > > When trying to run git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git wine or

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-18 Thread EA Durbin
> Agreed, CVS is much easier to use in my own opinion, But in what way it is? For example I dislike managament of env-variables at all. That's why I didn't like CVS :-p In the way that the instructions on the wine page just worked, and for familiarity purposes, git is rather new to me, and

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-18 Thread Saulius Krasuckas
> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:18:43 -0500 > From: EA Durbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > From: Robert Shearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:09:42 +0100 > > > > I think we should leave the reference to the CVS tree page (but still > > add a link to the Git tree). Some people find

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-18 Thread EA Durbin
er to navigate than that of the git web interface. From: Robert Shearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: wine-devel@winehq.org Subject: Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:09:42 +0100 Mike McCormack wrote: Index: templates/en/developme

Re: LOSTWAGES: Replace references to CVS with Git

2006-08-18 Thread Robert Shearman
Mike McCormack wrote: Index: templates/en/development.template === RCS file: /home/wine/lostwages/templates/en/development.template,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -p -r1.6 development.template --- templates/en

Re: LOSTWAGES PATCH: SUSE Download

2006-04-25 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 05:34:32PM -0400, Segin wrote: > Marcus Meissner wrote: ... > Let me hack at that patch a bit... > > Index: download.template > === > RCS file: /home/wine/lostwages/templates/en/d

Re: LOSTWAGES PATCH: SUSE Download

2006-04-25 Thread Dimi Paun
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 17:34 -0400, Segin wrote: >href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241&package_id=79444";>SUSE > - binary and source .rpms for SUSE 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, and 10.0 > + binary and source .rpms for SUSE 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 10.0, and > 1

Re: LOSTWAGES PATCH: SUSE Download

2006-04-25 Thread Segin
Marcus Meissner wrote: Hi, Adjust SUSE download entry to match what RPMs there are now. Ciao, Marcus Index: download.template === RCS file: /home/wine/lostwages/templates/en/download.template,v retrieving revision 1.77 diff -u

LostWages: Status pages update #6 resend

2006-02-06 Thread Tom Wickline
Hello, The first #6 is incorrect, please use this one Tom Changelog: move msacm.dll to Multimedia DLLs Index: en/status_multimedia.template === RCS file: /home/wine/lostwages/templates/en/status_multimedia.template,v retrieving

Re: LostWages: Status pages update #5

2006-02-06 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 02:47 -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: > Change log: please see status_changelog for a complete change log. > + ADD - Dmitry Timoshkov as worker to ICCVID > + ADD - Dmitry Timoshkov as worker to MSRLE32 > + ADD - Dmitry Timoshkov as worker to MSVIDC32 Tom, I already mentioned it

Re: lostwages: update myths

2006-02-02 Thread Juan Lang
> > + One exception, > > +Unreal Tournament 2004, is available in a native Linux 64-bit > > version, so > > +nobody (except maybe a Wine hacker) should want to run the Windows > > version > > +anyway. > Not 100% correct, there's also a Win64 version of Far Cry. I didn't say there is no other

Re: lostwages: update myths

2006-02-02 Thread Stefan Dösinger
Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 18:37 schrieb Juan Lang: > Due to a suggestion from Kate, rewrote the Win16/Win64 section. > > ChangeLog: Win32 has been the default for Wine for years, so say so > + One exception, > +Unreal Tournament 2004, is available in a native Linux 64-bit version, so > +

LostWages: Status pages update #4

2006-01-26 Thread Tom Wickline
Hello, Tom Change log: fix security.dll documentation link Index: en/status_dlls.template === RCS file: /home/wine/lostwages/templates/en/status_dlls.template,v retrieving revision 1.34 diff -u -r1.34 status_dlls.template --- en

[Lostwages] Re: lostwages/templates/en download.template

2006-01-24 Thread Tony Lambregts
Jeremy Newman wrote: ChangeSet ID: 22527 CVSROOT:/opt/cvs-commit Module name:lostwages Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006/01/24 14:26:23 Modified files: templates/en : download.template Log message: based on patch from: Sven Paschukat <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: LostWages: add a note to the WineTools link

2006-01-24 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 21:01 +0100, Sven Paschukat wrote: > as Vitaly noted it is not always clear that WineTools is not a > requirement for using Wine, so let the users decide if they want to test > or just want to use Wine. > "... or if you want to get best chances of success ..." I'd suggest

Re: LostWages: remove third party downloads section from our download page

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Wickline
On 1/23/06, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also Tom told me that he tried to contact winetools author and have not > received response from him in almost a month. I see Joachim sent a reply to the list, I suppose we should keep the link and see if we can find neutral ground. Tom

Re: LostWages: remove third party downloads section from our download page

2006-01-23 Thread Jim White
Brian Vincent wrote: Along similar lines, do we want to add a link for MacOS X going to the Darwine page? It appears they're tracking our releases, at least for PPC. It might clear up some of the questions coming to wine-devel about whether Wine will be supported. There is a pointer to Dar

Re: LostWages: remove third party downloads section from our download page

2006-01-23 Thread Brian Vincent
Along similar lines, do we want to add a link for MacOS X going to the Darwine page?  It appears they're tracking our releases, at least for PPC.  It might clear up some of the questions coming to wine-devel about whether Wine will be supported. -Brian

Re: LostWages: remove third party downloads section from our download page

2006-01-23 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Monday, January 23, 2006, 3:16:41 PM, Chris Morgan wrote: > On 1/23/06, Jeremy Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Did we decide if we wanted to do this? I can't remember. A.D.D. you >> know. >> >> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 02:22 -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > Tom >> > >> > Changelog

Re: LostWages: remove third party downloads section from our download page

2006-01-23 Thread Chris Morgan
Have we seen any response by the winetools guys as far as new revs and support in #winehq? Vitaly would be a good person to ask about this I think. Chris On 1/23/06, Jeremy Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did we decide if we wanted to do this? I can't remember. A.D.D. you > know. > > On Fri

Re: LostWages: remove third party downloads section from our download page

2006-01-23 Thread Jeremy Newman
Did we decide if we wanted to do this? I can't remember. A.D.D. you know. On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 02:22 -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: > Hello, > > Tom > > Changelog: > Remove third party downloads section from our download page

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-24 Thread Tom Wickline
On 12/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 04:22:19 +0100, Vitaliy Margolen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As such, you are just _a_ user of Wine that fails to listen. And there is > no point to speak with you about something that you are not even a part of.

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-24 Thread peter
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 04:22:19 +0100, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As such, you are just _a_ user of Wine that fails to listen. And there is no point to speak with you about something that you are not even a part of. well since once again you prefer to ignore or not even read mo

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:16:17 PM, Tom Wickline wrote: > On 12/23/05, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Friday, December 23, 2005, 11:36:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > I suppose everyone needs to feel important somewhere - some more than >> > others. >> >> Before we get perso

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Tom Wickline
On 12/23/05, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Friday, December 23, 2005, 11:36:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I suppose everyone needs to feel important somewhere - some more than > > others. > > Before we get personal, and start discussing who did what, please stop by > on #wineh

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Joseph Garvin
James Hawkins wrote: encourage peer review. We value bug reports, comments, suggestions, and criticisms, whether good or bad, so that we can make wine a better application. Your comments infer that the developers aren't interested in making wine easier for the end user, or that we are too 'har

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Chris Morgan
On 12/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:42:14 +0100, Chris Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I'm going to have to side with Vitaliy on this one. I've helped > > dozens of users in #winehq that have had problems with wine due to > > winetools since

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Friday, December 23, 2005, 11:36:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I suppose everyone needs to feel important somewhere - some more than > others. Before we get personal, and start discussing who did what, please stop by on #winehq. Then well'll talk.

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread wino
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:24:56 +0100, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There were case in US when family of someone killed with such a tool sued manufacturer if said tool. Yeah , and someone put thier poddle in the microwave and sued. Take that sort of judgement too seriously and

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Friday, December 23, 2005, 10:03:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:33:05 +0100, Vitaliy Margolen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm still insisting...and in most cases against the law. > Everyone is responsible for thier own actions. Someone who makes a hammer >

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread wino
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:33:05 +0100, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm still insisting...and in most cases against the law. Everyone is responsible for thier own actions. Someone who makes a hammer is not responsible for a murder comitted with it. How does wine ensur

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Chris Morgan
I'm going to have to side with Vitaliy on this one. I've helped dozens of users in #winehq that have had problems with wine due to winetools since we made the changes to remove the .config file. Apparently winetools has been upgraded to work with 0.9x versions of wine, this is great news although

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Friday, December 23, 2005, 6:13:30 AM, Tom Wickline wrote: > The Wine Tools maintainers have agreed to look into the problems that > you have brought to the surface, can we please drop this subject? No. I'm still insisting on removing winetools from the download page. They are against the wine dev

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Tom Wickline
On 12/23/05, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On a slightly related note, in CrossOver we force a whole bunch of DLLs > > to be builtin, like ole32, oleaut32, rpcrt4 and msi. Maybe we should do > > the same for Wine? > Well we could add them to the override list I guess. But I think

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread wino
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:58:03 +0100, Vitaliy Margolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 6. "Version"="win98" - that is wrong. Wine's default _is_ win2k. It is right for the goal of the winetools. Again, this is why it's titled "3rd Party Tools". No, it's not. Some major changes have been made to l

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-23 Thread Sven Paschukat
Vitaliy Margolen schrieb: I do not have Wine installed. All I have is wine symlink in my ~/bin dir. And winetools could not find wine nor winecfg. So when I ran wt it complained about that. That's a situation we don't have expected. I will try to make a fix. Mm looking at those checks I woul

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread James Hawkins
On 12/22/05, Joseph Garvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What usability? I've been reading the mailing list for a few months now, > and the only extent of 'usability' discussions for wine has been over > whether or not experienced linux geeks will be confused by options in > winecfg. That's not us

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Thursday, December 22, 2005, 12:04:52 PM, Robert Shearman wrote: > Vitaliy Margolen wrote: >>5. It adds some extra needless overrides to the registry, like >> DLLOVERRIDES="*=native, builtin". Is there a reason for this? That >> _is exactly_ what we, developers, trying to avoid. >> >> > Actu

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Thursday, December 22, 2005, 4:16:54 PM, Sven Paschukat wrote: > Vitaliy Margolen schrieb: >> 2. It can't use wine from the source tree (again for testing). > It should. What were your problems? I do not have Wine installed. All I have is wine symlink in my ~/bin dir. And winetools could not find

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread Joseph Garvin
James Hawkins wrote: Usability is another rapidly progressing area of wine. What usability? I've been reading the mailing list for a few months now, and the only extent of 'usability' discussions for wine has been over whether or not experienced linux geeks will be confused by options in

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread Dominic Wise
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 09:43 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:59:57 +0100, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On 12/21/05, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> As much as I appreciate the work you, Joachim, and others have put > >> into winetools

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread Sven Paschukat
Vitaliy Margolen schrieb: So, Tom, could you please specify the place where I can redirect all the people who having problems _with winetools_? To wine-users I presume? As it looks to me that's the place where all the advertisement going on about using winetools. Why not to wine-users? Wineto

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread Robert Shearman
Vitaliy Margolen wrote: 5. It adds some extra needless overrides to the registry, like DLLOVERRIDES="*=native, builtin". Is there a reason for this? That _is exactly_ what we, developers, trying to avoid. Actually, this makes sense for apps that install executables that are coincidentl

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread Michael Jung
Hi Vitaliy, On Thursday 22 December 2005 18:32, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Also had an interesting case last night: person had problems with > winetools. When I asked the version, he said it's 3.0.9. So, there is your > problem. Some one packaged winetools and made this version number. This seems

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 8:12:43 PM, Tom Wickline wrote: > Winetools helps people run programs that they might not be able to and > it helps them do that now. And that's what 99.9% of end users care > about, can I run what I want to now? If the answer is no 99.8% of them > will leave while .1%

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-22 Thread wino
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:59:57 +0100, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/21/05, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As much as I appreciate the work you, Joachim, and others have put into winetools, we're getting closer to the point in time when winetools needs to be phased out

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-21 Thread James Hawkins
On 12/21/05, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Happy Holiday's > Happy Holidays to you too :) -- James Hawkins

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-21 Thread Tom Wickline
On 12/21/05, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/21/05, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So you agree that is currently needed, I believe it should stay until 1.0 > > > > The link or the program? Whether the program itself is needed is up > to the users of winetools, an

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-21 Thread James Hawkins
On 12/21/05, Tom Wickline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So you agree that is currently needed, I believe it should stay until 1.0 > The link or the program? Whether the program itself is needed is up to the users of winetools, and they show that it's useful in the very least, which I agree. Whe

Re: [lostwages] Remove winetools from download page

2005-12-21 Thread Tom Wickline
On 12/21/05, James Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: winetools will > eventually no longer be needed (which is a good thing!), and this is > one of the first steps towards that process and wine 1.0. So you agree that is currently needed, I believe it should stay until 1.0 Tom > > -- > James

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