Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-24 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>It may be that installing IE under Wine at all is outside the IE license. I've been told by M$ Italy that if I have a windows license for my pc, I can install any M$ windows OS component, such as media player or IE, even if windows is not installed. The important thing is that one must have the li

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-24 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>It may be that installing IE under Wine at all is outside the IE license. I've been told by M$ Italy that if I have a windows license for my pc, I can install any M$ windows OS component, such as media player or IE, even if windows is not installed. The important thing is that one must have the li

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-24 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
> I have an Idea > > What is the version of VC++ you have? > > What if you write and compile let's say, a small app that uses MFC and > IE, using the VC++ tool-chain. Than you are a legal distributer of M$ > software, end of problem. Do you want that I send you a small windows > app that uses

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-24 Thread hatky
> Well, maybe it is correct? Did you check disk > space/memory? NO, and you can see the next bug msg on the bord that "This is never really the problem" > How latest is latest? Do a check out of the cvs now, it won't change in the next 2 weeks :( That's all I have on this topic (another leagel to

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-24 Thread Mike Hearn
On Wed, 2003-12-24 at 11:20, Boaz Harrosh wrote: > I was looking at the MSVC EULA's again. In order for you to nail this > completely. The M$ license says that you cannot distribute a package > that equals to the sum of it's parts. You can't just distribute IE MFC > and so on just by themselve

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-24 Thread Boaz Harrosh
Boaz Harrosh wrote: I have an Idea What is the version of VC++ you have? What if you write and compile let's say, a small app that uses MFC and IE, using the VC++ tool-chain. Than you are a legal I was looking at the MSVC EULA's again. In order for you to nail this completely. The M$ lice

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-24 Thread Boaz Harrosh
I have an Idea What is the version of VC++ you have? What if you write and compile let's say, a small app that uses MFC and IE, using the VC++ tool-chain. Than you are a legal distributer of M$ software, end of problem. Do you want that I send you a small windows app that uses MFC and embeds a

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Troy Rollo
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:29, Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote: >[explanation of why using the install script is probably illegal] I agree. I'm pretty sure these are only redistributable under a license that limits their use to Windows. Even if the limitation is illegal under competition laws, this does

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
> What about people who redistribute those apps in turn? But they aren't using them in there own app, so they aren't creating a derivate work. Only the vendor (In the case of the script you) needs a license. In any case you can't just take the dlls from an app, you must find one that allows you to

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 21:29, Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote: > They come with apps because the vendors of those apps have a license from M$ to > redistribute them. You need such a license before you can redistribute them. What about people who redistribute those apps in turn? For instance, if I writ

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
> MSVCRT40/MFC40 aren't components of windows though, they are > redistributable DLLs that come with apps. They come with apps because the vendors of those apps have a license from M$ to redistribute them. You need such a license before you can redistribute them. > Well, I'm pretty sure that sort

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 20:24, Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote: > > I'd like to see the legal text that says they are > > not redistributable, > The microsoft windows (Favourite version of 32-bit windows here) license MSVCRT40/MFC40 aren't components of windows though, they are redistributable DLLs that

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
> Why do you say that? Because of how copyright works, if a file isn't yours, you need a written permission to prove that you have the right to use it/redistribute it, or the copyright holder can claim that the use/redistribution of the file is unauthorized. > I'd like to see the legal text that sa

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:47, hatky wrote: > I tried it out, seems ie6 setup fails with current > CVS, says something on low mem or lack of space. Well, maybe it is correct? Did you check disk space/memory? > Mandrake Linux 9.2 with all patches and latest CVS > wine, How latest is latest? There w

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:48, Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote: > You can't redistribute them, unless you have some sort of special license from > m$. There is a simple trick to get round this. Why do you say that? I'd like to see the legal text that says they are not redistributable, as they are intend

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread hatky
I tried it out, seems ie6 setup fails with current CVS, says something on low mem or lack of space. Mandrake Linux 9.2 with all patches and latest CVS wine, Hatky. __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

Re: Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>The installer program contains a few things that may or may not be >redistributable - for instance, it contains MSVCRT40.DLL and MFC40.DLL, >both of which are available for free from dll-files.com so it seemed to >make sense to include them. You can't redistribute them, unless you have some sort o

Easy IE installer script

2003-12-23 Thread Mike Hearn
Hi everyone, I thought I'd let the list know that I wrote an easy IE installer program, for those times when only explorer will do. On a Wine CVS build, no windows install, it installs pretty much perfectly, and it does run (stability is so so :). It'll also put a nice menu entry in your menus if