Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-06 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
> The 'Linux community' of the start where all the people gave something back > (useful and advanced bug reports, fixes, help, ...) is being slowly killed > by people who choose Linux just because it's free (as in beer) and who do > not give back anything. Thats because most people don't want to gi

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-06 Thread Mike Hearn
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 12:44, Lionel Ulmer wrote: > For me, more users is not always a good thing... Heck, after some time on > IRC helping people I am really wondering if I should even continue working > on Wine when I see the attitude of most people. Ah, well users and developers are often one an

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-06 Thread Lionel Ulmer
> More users means more feedback, better software, more users, more developers, > more software, more feedback... Heh, I always love idealists :-) For me, more users is not always a good thing... Heck, after some time on IRC helping people I am really wondering if I should even continue working o

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-06 Thread Ivan Leo Murray-Smith
>Well, it's more a 'good old days' feelings than a real theory. Ie the >biggest problem I see with 'Linux on everybody's Desktop' is that it's >damaging for the community (due to the fact that the developper / user ratio >is getting more and more skewed to the user side whereas 'in the golden >days

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-05 Thread Dustin Navea
--- Lionel Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > whereas 'in the golden days' anyone using Linux was a developper). Correction: anyone using Linux either was a developer, or proficient enough with computers to want to become one.. ;) = Dustin Navea Minor Contributor, http://www.winehq.com B

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-05 Thread Lionel Ulmer
> > Oh well, I am sure a lot of people will disagree (heck, there are even some > > people who find Linux on the Desktop a good idea :-) ). > > Man, you're looking for a fight, aren't you? :) Well, it's more a 'good old days' feelings than a real theory. Ie the biggest problem I see with 'Linux o

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-05 Thread Ferenc Wagner
hatky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > getting the trace of a certain component is not that easy > because there is no place listing them If you can find that component in the source tree (often easier than in the man page, which simply lists all the channels), then at the top of the .c file you wil

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Lionel Ulmer wrote: On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 02:23:34PM -0700, hatky wrote: Some games are failing at detecting a 3D card or sometimes the screen dept, have a look at bug : http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1696 getting into another bugzila/testing prenzy, What about rather a coding /

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-05 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Tom wrote: > Junk, humm one mans junk is anothers treasure! Indeed. Now, I agree the thing can be update a bit more often, but it's not that out-of-date. The reason it wasn't updated as of late is that not much happened in the area. I've made a real effort of keeping the thing

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-05 Thread Tom
hatky wrote: About coding it's even harder since I do not know a lot about linux and in programming for linux for a first, the list of tasks is updated very slowly and usually not very clear to outsiders, the Janitorial list that is suppose to be the easiest is not very clear about what to do and

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-05 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On September 5, 2003 07:41 am, Lionel Ulmer wrote: > Oh well, I am sure a lot of people will disagree (heck, there are even some > people who find Linux on the Desktop a good idea :-) ). Man, you're looking for a fight, aren't you? :) -- Dimi.

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-05 Thread hatky
> What about rather a coding / debugging frenzy ? I considered them both but they are very hard to do for me for a known reason, Documentation. I read them all + a lot of the mailing lists but still do not know where to start with all of this even in the debugging, getting the trace of a certain

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-05 Thread Lionel Ulmer
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 11:56:09AM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: > >Considering the lots of time people seem to spend on fixing Bugzilla bugs > >(instead of fixing their 'own' bugs), I think learning how to code and to > >fix bugs yourself would be time better spend :-) > > Is this meant to be ironi

Re: Display detection bug

2003-09-04 Thread Lionel Ulmer
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 02:23:34PM -0700, hatky wrote: > Some games are failing at detecting a 3D card or > sometimes the screen dept, have a look at bug : > > http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1696 > > getting into another bugzila/testing prenzy, What about rather a coding / debugging fren

Display detection bug

2003-09-04 Thread hatky
Some games are failing at detecting a 3D card or sometimes the screen dept, have a look at bug : http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1696 getting into another bugzila/testing prenzy, hatky. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site desig