Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-04-30 Thread Dimi Paun
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 16:32 +0900, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > Please consider disabling attachments once and for all. Thanks. OK, I'll look at that this afternoon. -- Dimi Paun Lattica, Inc.

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-04-30 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Hi Dimi, "Dimi Paun" wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 00:59 +0800, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: http://wiki.winehq.org/RecentChanges has all the details. Please consider at least removing the spammers' accounts listed there, I have done that in the past, and I'll keep removing them. A quick ping on

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-15 Thread John Klehm
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Ok, then please can we disable attachments? And if not why? If we have to > have attachments then is it possible to let admins only to upload them? > http://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration/FileAttachments ---snip The AttachFile action

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-15 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ben Klein wrote: > 2009/3/16 Vitaliy Margolen : >> Ben Klein wrote: >>> 2009/3/14 David Gerard : 2009/3/13 John Klehm : > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> Because the ideal way to deal with more malicious users without >> hampering the good users is to give

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-15 Thread Ben Klein
2009/3/16 Vitaliy Margolen : > Ben Klein wrote: >> 2009/3/14 David Gerard : >>> 2009/3/13 John Klehm : On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Because the ideal way to deal with more malicious users without > hampering the good users is to give community members the pow

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-15 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Ben Klein wrote: > 2009/3/14 David Gerard : >> 2009/3/13 John Klehm : >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, David Gerard wrote: Because the ideal way to deal with more malicious users without hampering the good users is to give community members the power to do the work, so it doesn'

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-15 Thread Ben Klein
2009/3/14 David Gerard : > 2009/3/13 John Klehm : >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, David Gerard wrote: > >>> Because the ideal way to deal with more malicious users without >>> hampering the good users is to give community members the power to do >>> the work, so it doesn't fall to just Dimi. >

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 John Klehm : > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> Because the ideal way to deal with more malicious users without >> hampering the good users is to give community members the power to do >> the work, so it doesn't fall to just Dimi. > I'd agree, but there doesn't s

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread John Klehm
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM, David Gerard wrote: > You need to be a SuperUser to have that power, not a mere Admin. Does > that carry too many extra abilities with it? > It does carry more responsibilities. Too many isn't for me to say. > Because the ideal way to deal with more malicious us

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 John Klehm : > http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnUserHandling > Section "Disable a user account" > The account is still there but can't post which would probably be good > enough till dimi comes to zap it. > Seems there is no way to delete a user account from the web gui > without a custom p

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread John Klehm
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:40 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/3/13 Dimi Paun : >> On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 00:59 +0800, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > >>> or give a way to do that for us poor people who regularly brushes >>> spam out of the Wine wiki. > >> I have no problem with that if if can be done. >>

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 Dimi Paun : > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 00:59 +0800, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: >> or give a way to do that for us poor people who regularly brushes >> spam out of the Wine wiki. > I have no problem with that if if can be done. > Can someone look it up what would it take to make > Moin do that

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread Dimi Paun
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 00:59 +0800, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > http://wiki.winehq.org/RecentChanges has all the details. Please > consider at least removing the spammers' accounts listed there, I have done that in the past, and I'll keep removing them. A quick ping on IRC usually gets me going :)

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 Dmitry Timoshkov : > http://wiki.winehq.org/RecentChanges has all the details. Please > consider at least removing the spammers' accounts listed there, > or give a way to do that for us poor people who regularly brushes > spam out of the Wine wiki. Yes, the usual remedy in this situati

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Dimi Paun" wrote: And I'll like to see some data that shows that we have a significant portion of the spammers are bots before we even start thinking of captchas. http://wiki.winehq.org/RecentChanges has all the details. Please consider at least removing the spammers' accounts listed there,

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/13 Dimi Paun : > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 01:59 +1100, Ben Klein wrote: >> Of course, complicated captchas don't keep out manually created spam >> accounts, only bots. > And I'll like to see some data that shows that we have a > significant portion of the spammers are bots before we > even st

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread Dimi Paun
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 01:59 +1100, Ben Klein wrote: > Of course, complicated captchas don't keep out manually created spam > accounts, only bots. And I'll like to see some data that shows that we have a significant portion of the spammers are bots before we even start thinking of captchas. -- D

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread Ben Klein
2009/3/13 Dmitry Timoshkov : > "Ben Klein" wrote: > > Another thing that would probably help to get rid of spammers' accounts > is to (regularly) delete all user accounts without a personal page. It would also get rid of anyone who did not want to create a home page. >> >> It wou

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/12 Dmitry Timoshkov : > Spammers do "contribute" a lot lately to the Wine wiki, that's why this > thread has appeared in the first place. What are the numbers? Any action should be based on evidence. > If a user has found a typo, probably he/she is aware of bugzilla or irc. Or you cou

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-13 Thread Jeff Latimer
Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: If a user has found a typo, probably he/she is aware of bugzilla or irc. That's a lot thinking for a user to do given bugzilla is not an intuitive approach to correcting grammar. There does not appear to be an easy way to decide that a user is valid and spammers will cr

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Rosanne DiMesio" wrote: > As I said having a short description what your intentions/activity is in > the Wine project is enough, no burden/obligations to update it. So, if a user notices a typo in the wiki and is nice enough to take the time to correct it, you want to require them to also a

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > [...] > > As I said having a short description what your intentions/activity is in > > the Wine project is enough, no burden/obligations to update it. > So, if a user notices a typo in the wiki and is nice enough to take the time to correct it, yo

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Francois Gouget
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: [...] > As I said having a short description what your intentions/activity is in > the Wine project is enough, no burden/obligations to update it. And unless you updated the list of what you usually work on and what you intend to work on quickly become

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Ben Klein" wrote: Another thing that would probably help to get rid of spammers' accounts is to (regularly) delete all user accounts without a personal page. It would also get rid of anyone who did not want to create a home page. It would also attract spammers to creating personal pages.

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Francois Gouget" wrote: What's the point in having a Wiki account then? Being able to modify the Wiki pages. Being notified of changes to specific Wiki pages. As far as I know you cannot do that if you don't have an account. But personally I really don't want yet one more home page to main

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Ben Klein
2009/3/12 Dmitry Timoshkov : > [please don't forget to cc: wine-devel] > > "Jeff Latimer" wrote: > It would be also helpful to to get all wiki user account list (check it time from time for suspicious names) and have an ability to delete accounts of known spammers for Wiki admi

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/12 Dmitry Timoshkov : > Another thing that would probably help to get rid of spammers' accounts > is to (regularly) delete all user accounts without a personal page. Evidence-based actions would probably be a good idea. What are the actual numbers? - d.

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:58:42 +0800 "Dmitry Timoshkov" wrote: > What's the point in having a Wiki account then? > I occasionally update the FAQ based on questions that seem to come up on the forum repeatedly. And I really don't want a personal page. -- Rosanne DiMesio

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Francois Gouget
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: [...] > > I just created one /just in case/ but really don't want to. > > What's the point in having a Wiki account then? Being able to modify the Wiki pages. Being notified of changes to specific Wiki pages. As far as I know you cannot do that if you

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
[please don't forget to cc: wine-devel] "Jeff Latimer" wrote: It would be also helpful to to get all wiki user account list (check it time from time for suspicious names) and have an ability to delete accounts of known spammers for Wiki admins. Is it possible? Another thing that would proba

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Dmitry Timoshkov" wrote: It would be also helpful to to get all wiki user account list (check it time from time for suspicious names) and have an ability to delete accounts of known spammers for Wiki admins. Is it possible? Another thing that would probably help to get rid of spammers' accou

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-11 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
"Vitaliy Margolen" wrote: Please disable file attachments on Wiki. There are no way to verify their validity and for the past week it's been a constant source of spam. IMHO file attachment does not belong on text only Wiki. If anyone needs to attach a patch a two - they can link it to the one

Fwd: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-11 Thread David Gerard
to list as well -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard Date: 2009/3/11 Subject: Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki To: Dimi Paun 2009/3/11 Dimi Paun : > On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 08:02 -0600, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: >> Anyone? Also how about blockin

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-11 Thread Dimi Paun
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 08:02 -0600, Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Anyone? Also how about blocking this IP: 213.155.0.32 ? Not sure how we can block that IP easily. If it has to do with iptables, forget it. -- Dimi Paun Lattica, Inc.

Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-11 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Please disable file attachments on Wiki. There are no way to verify their > validity and for the past week it's been a constant source of spam. > > IMHO file attachment does not belong on text only Wiki. If anyone needs to > attach a patch a two - they can link it to the

Disabling File attachments on Wiki

2009-03-08 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Please disable file attachments on Wiki. There are no way to verify their validity and for the past week it's been a constant source of spam. IMHO file attachment does not belong on text only Wiki. If anyone needs to attach a patch a two - they can link it to the one in ML archives or even bugzill